View Poll Results: What would you pay to make your generator near silent?
I think honda and yamaha's are quiet enough - I have no issue running them all night in a campground 5 19.23%
I would pay up to $200 to reduce noise to near silent levels (35db) 12 46.15%
I would pay up to $500 to reduce noise to near silent 5 19.23%
I would pay more than $500 to reduce noise to near silent 4 15.38%
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Old 06-15-2011, 02:59 PM   #15
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"Silent generator"=solar panels...
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In Europe generators are forbidden on the parking lots. There are fuel cells already for a few years, but (still) too expensive.
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:57 PM   #17
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Exactly - no campgrounds allow generators to be run all night. Which is exactly why I would like a whisper quiet generator. Campgrounds would allow them if they were silent.

Just about every thread I have ever read on generators has concentrated on one of the four following qualities: Power, Weight/size, fuel economy, and noise. I would say the largest percentage of respondents are asking about noise.

I don't really understand the post about the tent. A tent would do little to nothing to silence a generator. If out of site, out of mind is true - then campgrounds wouldn't ban generators. You could just tuck it away behind the rig and you'd be set. I realize this was tongue in cheeck though. I don't doubt you haven't had complaints - but I am certain at least some people were annoyed by the noise. Often people don't speak up, as that in itself creates tension that people are trying to escape when they go camping. Just my opinion of course...
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"Silent generator"=solar panels...
Solar panels do no good in the forest...
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Also - solar/batteries will not power a microwave or AC. People will run these, and will fire up their generators to do so.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:00 PM   #20
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I am also curious about the source of the noise. Is it from inadequate mufflers or is there also significant mechanical noise escaping from the engines.

On many small engines, the mufflers are mostly a joke. If mufflers are available that make large V8 engines nearly silent, there should be some that would do the same for small engines. Yes, they would probably be larger than a pint of ice cream but, since they are hollow, larger mufflers should not add that much to weight. Or cost, in my opinion. Quietness would have to be given more priority than small size, though.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:22 PM   #21
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Sound is a function of transmission and reflection.
1. Oversize the radiator and place it outside the enclosure
2. Box in box enclosure with no contact between boxes.
3. High mass material on inside of outer box.
4. Any pass throughs between boxes must face up
5. Exhaust needs to exit up And higher than head height
6. Exhaust needs to be double walled.
7. Low durometer mounts from operettas to inner box
8. Low durometer mounts from inner box to outer box
All noise you can't convert to heat needs to reflect up ( not in plane with ears)
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:23 PM   #22
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Also - solar/batteries will not power a microwave or AC. People will run these, and will fire up their generators to do so.
We did all of Alumapalooza on solar. Did fine without microwave or AC. Do understand that AC is necessary in some parts of the country. And in a forest have found sunny spots to park.

Have a friend with solar who did run his microwave. Worked fine.

Don't much mind the Hondas or Yamahas. Do mind the construction generators.
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I don't really understand the post about the tent. A tent would do little to nothing to silence a generator. If out of site, out of mind is true - then campgrounds wouldn't ban generators. You could just tuck it away behind the rig and you'd be set. I realize this was tongue in cheeck though. I don't doubt you haven't had complaints - but I am certain at least some people were annoyed by the noise. Often people don't speak up, as that in itself creates tension that people are trying to escape when they go camping. Just my opinion of course...
It rains some in the Adirondacks, better to keep it dry while running.

If I do have a neighbor the first thing I offer is power if they need it.
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What if.......the generator was sitting in a dish or box, attached to the top of the trailer (or TV) and the dish or box was sound insulated so that very little sound radiated to the sides, but was all reflected straight up. This would also allow heat to dissipate, and exhaust. But it should be feasible to make a baffle for the entire lower hemisphere of space below the generator so that people standing under it couldn't hear it.
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Exactly - no campgrounds allow generators to be run all night. Which is exactly why I would like a whisper quiet generator. Campgrounds would allow them if they were silent.
Not quite, remember the rule is on the books. sort of like no alcohol in parks with a recycle bin full of beer cans.
First complaint would demand shut down and worse yet being booted out in the middle of the night or vacation.
With enough batteries anything can be run with an inverter for a short amount of time even if it uses a lot of power.
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Exactly - no campgrounds allow generators to be run all night. Which is exactly why I would like a whisper quiet generator. Campgrounds would allow them if they were silent.
Then they would complain about your AC unit on top of your camper making noise.
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Exactly - no campgrounds allow generators to be run all night. Which is exactly why I would like a whisper quiet generator. Campgrounds would allow them if they were silent.

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Not quite, remember the rule is on the books. sort of like no alcohol in parks with a recycle bin full of beer cans.
First complaint would demand shut down and worse yet being booted out in the middle of the night or vacation.
So when was the last time you complained that someone was using a flashlight in their tent? The answer is, you didn't complain because it didn't bother you. If it's silent, then you aren't going to care or complain and the rangers will have no reason to boot you out.
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Then they would complain about your AC unit on top of your camper making noise.
I agree - AC units do make a lot of noise, so I don't really condone their use in campgrounds. No clear answers here.
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