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Old 05-31-2008, 12:57 AM   #57
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Hi, I'm pretty much sold on the Yamaha 2400 generator, but I just came up with another option; Onan 2400. I will try to make just a few comparisons just for some feed back. I also want to note that although there are many Yamaha dealers around here, but none of them sell or service generators. I have many Onan service centers near by. Also note huge price difference. Please be open and honest with your opinions.

Yamaha 2400 inverter, rated output 2000, rated amps 16.7, engine 171 cc 5.5 HP, length 20.7" width 16.5" height 18.1" weight 70 lbs, fuel tank 1.6 gallons, noise level 53 - 58 dBA, warranty 2 years, price $1,080.00 [E-BAY]

Onan 2400 Homesite, rated output 2000, rated amps 16.6, engine 196 cc 6.5 HP, length 23.2" width 18.7" height 18.1" weight 99 lbs, fuel tank 4.0 gallons, noise level 68 dBA warranty 2 years, price $349.99 [Costco]
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:03 AM   #58
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Hi Bob, they look like they compare OK until you get to weight and noise level. The 68db vs 58db is a significant difference from what I understand.
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I got the Yamaha 2400 last week from Wise Sales for $1109 ($1099 plus $10 insurance). It was next day delivery and double boxed with foam chips. I do shop on eBay but was more comfortable for $29 getting it from a fully authorized dealer. I'll be converting it to propane so I don't have to carry a can of gas.

My comments are the 70 lbs is about the limit of what I want to lift and move around. I plan to store it in the truck when it is not being used so I will be lifting it fairly often. I think 99 lbs would be a tough lift by myself.

I am breaking it in with gas for 3 hours as suggested and am very pleased how quiet it is. Sure you do hear it, but the sound is very low and not that annoying at 15+ feet.




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Hi, I'm pretty much sold on the Yamaha 2400 generator, but I just came up with another option; Onan 2400. I will try to make just a few comparisons just for some feed back. I also want to note that although there are many Yamaha dealers around here, but none of them sell or service generators. I have many Onan service centers near by. Also note huge price difference. Please be open and honest with your opinions.

Yamaha 2400 inverter, rated output 2000, rated amps 16.7, engine 171 cc 5.5 HP, length 20.7" width 16.5" height 18.1" weight 70 lbs, fuel tank 1.6 gallons, noise level 53 - 58 dBA, warranty 2 years, price $1,080.00 [E-BAY]

Onan 2400 Homesite, rated output 2000, rated amps 16.6, engine 196 cc 6.5 HP, length 23.2" width 18.7" height 18.1" weight 99 lbs, fuel tank 4.0 gallons, noise level 68 dBA warranty 2 years, price $349.99 [Costco]
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68 db is MUCH louder than 58db. A regular construction generatr is rated at 80db and they are obnoxious even at fifty feet. These ratings are taken at 20 feet and I think they are conservative at best. Ajet taking off is 110db and that is the pain threshold.
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68 db is MUCH louder than 58db. A regular construction generatr is rated at 80db and they are obnoxious even at fifty feet.
Bob,

I agree with jayray5 about 68db being louder than 58db, but what I have found is that MOST of the other campers have similar gens (70db or greater) and unless you are alone or with only folks with 58db gens, "it dont' make no difference." I never hear my Yamaha 3000, mostly because I hear everybody elese's gens. I have also found that most camgrounds don't police the noise issue until well after the gen time.

As for the Onan vs Yamaha, heck, I really liked the Yamaha 2400, but with the same engine as the 3000, and a fuel tank half the size, the run time was too short for me. The larger fuel tank and the PRICE would push me to try the Onan. If it works out to be too loud, keep it as a back up for the house.

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The first night that I was stranded by a winter storm last weekend there were six trailer stuck in the snow. Each had a Honda Generator (4 2000's & 2 1000's). During the storm covered with ice and snow at 8200 feet in elevation each started on the first pull and ran with no issues. It would have made a great commercial. Here is mine (EU1000i) a day or two later.
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Hi, I'm pretty much sold on the Yamaha 2400 generator, but I just came up with another option; Onan 2400....
hi robert

onan has some nice reliable gensets and they do have a WIDE dealer/service network.

regardless, resale is easier and higher for red or blue ones...

i think o' does make a 'quieter' series now too...

the unit u list is about 4 TIMES louder than the yam' listed.

that's a lot IF it is running anywhere near full capacity.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/208822-post12.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/439416-post13.html

think about it this way...

INSIDE your trailer with the a/c running u will NOT hear the yamaha...

INSIDE your trialer with the a/c running u WILL hear the onan...

and so will the neighbors.

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Old 05-31-2008, 11:20 PM   #64
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Costco - Cummins Onan Inverter Generators

Costco. Onans with the quiet pack. JUST ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT. But, after doing extensive reasearch why..or why would anyone buy anything but a Honda?????? If cost is NOT a big thing. If cost is a big thing...then I understand.
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Costco - Cummins Onan Inverter Generators

Costco. Onans with the quiet pack. JUST ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT. But, after doing extensive reasearch why..or why would anyone buy anything but a Honda?????? If cost is NOT a big thing. If cost is a big thing...then I understand.
Hi, DFord79. I also looked at the Onan Inverter generators, and for what they cost, they are too close in price to the similar Honda's and Yamaha's. So for about another $100.00 I would buy the Honda or Yamaha. But I'm comparing two generators that are similar in abilities with a hugh difference in price. [$1080.00 vesus $350.00] 1/3 the price. The two biggest draw backs, for me, are weight and noise. Is that worth $730.00? I can afford any generator that I want, but I have to ask myself if it is, "Penny Wise or Dollar Foolish?" And I'm always open to your opinions, that's why I posted this in the first place.
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used eu2000i on craigslist

for those in the Portland area I just saw this as on Craigslist
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ROBERTSUNRUS,

I agree completely. The balance of money versus fuction is always important. I love when people share opinions. Actually I have been lookin hard at the Onan 4300 NOT because of price or quiet ( quiet is very impotant though) but because it is a 4300 watt genny. It fills a gap between the Honda 3000 and the Honda 6500 quiet gennys. Yamaha has a 4500 quiet pack genny just introducted last month also. It retails for about $3,300 dollars though. but the Onan fills that gap.

I would jump at the Honda EU 3000 if it would do everything I want it to do. But its just shy of enough genny to boondock with A/C running and wanting to run the micro and charge the batteries at the same time. A 4,300 watt or bigger will also run at idle where the smaller gennys might be screaming full song while multitasking. And the Honda EU 6500 will definitly fill the bill....at close to 4 grand though. But I would also have a great house backup with the Honda 6500.

When I do finally jump in and make my final decisions (your probably wondering why I am taking so long, I have hip replacement surgery schedualed for July 7th) I want to do this right. NO second thoughts. I want to buy what I need and not look back. After all this is retirement and time is running out. I will probably buy with a bit of overkill in mind but at least I won't look back and say "I with I had spent a few more dollars and got the best". At least thats my plan. God willing, hip surgery successfull and the creek don't rise.
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I was just planning on buying a Honda 2000 until I started to do more research. In the end I spent the extra $100 on the chance that the Yamaha 2400 watt would run my A/C. I went through Wise Sales and it was on my doorstep the next day with free shipping.

It powered up the A/C like there was nothing to it. My A/C draws 15.8 amps and the generator provides 16.7 amps so there's not much room for anything else, but at least I have the option for A/C if I need it.

I figured the A/C would have that baby revved up pretty high but it didn't sound like it was much higher than the idle speed. Very impressive. My vote is for the Yamaha.
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I was just planning on buying a Honda 2000 until I started to do more research. In the end I spent the extra $100 on the chance that the Yamaha 2400 watt would run my A/C. I went through Wise Sales and it was on my doorstep the next day with free shipping.

It powered up the A/C like there was nothing to it. My A/C draws 15.8 amps and the generator provides 16.7 amps so there's not much room for anything else, but at least I have the option for A/C if I need it.

I figured the A/C would have that baby revved up pretty high but it didn't sound like it was much higher than the idle speed. Very impressive. My vote is for the Yamaha.
Although I ended up with the Yamaha 3000, I first tried the Yamaha 2400, and as TinLoaf states, the 2400 ran our 13,500 AC with no problem, at least at sea level. At idle speed, the 2400 is louder than the 3000, but it really didn't sound any louder than the 3000 at full load. It is my understanding that the two share the same gas engine. The difference in the price and weight is huge between the two, roughly twice for the 3000. The 2400 is witjout doubt a better financial deal over the 3000.
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The Yamaha 2400 is 2400 watts max output. It is not rated at 2400 continuous load. Would you operate your vehicle continuously at the red line or just beneath it knowing full well you are still "within" operating limits? I think operating your AC with the Yamaha 2400 is asking for trouble in the short term as in premature failure of your AC or a very short life of the generator. Better financial deal, I'm not convinced. Having purchased the Yamaha, I quickly got rid of it and might have opted for the 3000 with boost, but I think the best investment lies with two Honda 2000"s as it gives plenty of power and many options available with running one or two depending on your needs du jour.
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