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Old 02-27-2010, 09:00 PM   #21
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Foldable Dog Ramp

We have the Yamaha that we run on LP. It is heavy so we use a foldable dog ramp to load and unload. Makes it a one person job.

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Old 02-27-2010, 10:56 PM   #22
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Heh, heh - You're baiting me, markdoane, after a previous post of mine

While you are MORE than capable of such a rigging, people with your uncanny insight tend to be older than me.

Why would you want the extra effort? Even Dumbledore can lift an EU2000.

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Anyway, one nice thing about the Handi is that Harry Potter can lift it by himself and it's not like HE is anybody's Hulk Hogan...

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Old 02-28-2010, 02:18 AM   #23
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one nice thing about the Handi is that Harry Potter can lift it by himself
Marcus is concealing his true abilities... He is a rather "Buff" dude. As a mater of fact, he and his wife spend "date night" competing in feats of strength and endurance. (evidence below)

As TomW said "A Honda 3000[anything] is still going to be heavy"
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:21 AM   #24
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if you can lift a case of beer 12oz. bottles ,you can lift a Honda EU3000 i
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:45 AM   #25
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The eu3000is size and 140# weight can easily hurt your back. Most cases its a 2 person job. Carrying 2 eu2000i gens is far easier. A plastic coated cable lock will help keep them from walking away.
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:57 AM   #26
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We bought one recently and though we have not used it yet in traveling, here are some initial thoughts. It is light enough for me to be ableto lift into the back of our Suburban. Easy to pull start and very quiet. Disappointed that an extended fuel application has not been developed for it, other than if you are able to position the external tank to work off gravity. Something about lacking fuel pump?? My decision was based entirely on a price comparison of this unit against two 2000i's, parallel setup,etc. Jack
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:58 AM   #27
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77.6 lbs. call it 78 lbs with gas.I am 55 years old with a bad back, and i can lift it easily,maybe at 60 years it will be to heavy.The wheels and ramp make it easier to load.
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if you can lift a case of beer 12oz. bottles ,you can lift a Honda EU3000 i
134lb case 'a brew?

EU3000IS Specifications
Engine Honda GX200
Displacement 196cc
AC Output 120V 3000W max.(25A) 2800W rated (23.3A)
Receptacles 20A 125V Duplex, 30A 125V Locking Plug
DC Output 12V, 144W (12A)
Starting System Recoil, electric
Fuel Tank Capacity 3.4 gals.
Run Time per Tankful 7.2 hrs. @ rated load, 20 hrs. @ 1/4 load
Dimensions (L x W x H) 25.8" x 18.9" x 22.4"
Noise Level 58 dB @ rated load 49 dB @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight 134 lbs.
Residential Warranty 3 Years
Commercial Warranty 3 Years
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:32 AM   #29
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I've been using a pair of EU2000 gens hooked in parallel for a year or so now. It takes both to run the AC and microwave, but the small size if each was the big appeal to me. One is enough in seasonal weather for all other trailer electric functions. The big downside was the price, but I was willing to pay it for the uber-quiet running noise of the Honda....best in the industry
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:36 AM   #30
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134lb case 'a brew?

EU3000IS Specifications
Engine Honda GX200
Displacement 196cc
AC Output 120V 3000W max.(25A) 2800W rated (23.3A)
Receptacles 20A 125V Duplex, 30A 125V Locking Plug
DC Output 12V, 144W (12A)
Starting System Recoil, electric
Fuel Tank Capacity 3.4 gals.
Run Time per Tankful 7.2 hrs. @ rated load, 20 hrs. @ 1/4 load
Dimensions (L x W x H) 25.8" x 18.9" x 22.4"
Noise Level 58 dB @ rated load 49 dB @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight 134 lbs.
Residential Warranty 3 Years
Commercial Warranty 3 Years
Just to clarify, there are two Honda 3000 inverter-type generators. The 134 lb one is the "original" but that is not what the original poster asked about. The original poster asked about the "Handi" model, which is the "new" one. It only weighs ~78 lbs.

Here are the specs:

Engine Honda GX160
Displacement 163cc
AC Output 120V 3000W max.(25A) 2600W rated (21.7A)
Receptacles 20A 125V Duplex, 30A 125V Locking Plug
DC Output 12V, 100W (8A)
Starting System Recoil
Fuel Tank Capacity 1.56 gal.
Run Time per Tankful 3.6 hrs. @ rated load, 7.7 hrs. @ 1/4 load Dimensions (L x W x H) 24.5” x 14.9” x 19.3” Noise Level 65 dB @ rated load, 57 dB @ 1/4 load
Dry Weight 78 lbs.
Residential Warranty 3 Years
Commercial Warranty 3 Years

This is what it looks like:



As I stated above, it has plenty of power to run your trailer. You don't need two 2000s in parallel, though that's certainly a viable option as well.

And Steve-- my wife can out-lift me on the 12 oz curls every time.
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Just to clarify, there are two Honda 3000 inverter-type generators. The 134 lb one is the "original" but that is not what the original poster asked about. The original poster asked about the "Handi" model, which is the "new" one. It only weighs ~78 lbs.
Wow...very kool unit!!!
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:07 AM   #32
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Yes, I think it's pretty cool too. The performance has been excellent, the only challenge I've had with it is the small fuel tank.

I did run across this article on eHow that explains how to create an auxiliary fuel tank using readily available parts. I'll probably try to do this as soon as I get some time.

How to add an aux fuel tank to a generator | eHow.com

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Old 02-28-2010, 08:25 AM   #33
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Utee 94 got it right, that's the model I'm interested in. It came out late last year and it weighs a lot less than the other 3000. As far as fuel use goes it would just be a matter of an extra cap and adapting a portable boat tank to it.
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The pull start on a 2000 was a concern of mine, too, remembering how frustrating starting a lawnmower used to be (I suppose even they are easier these days)...but we got a 2000i with a pull-start and it is really easy to start. It usually starts on the very first pull (unless I forget to turn the switch to "on" or to choke it when it's cold)... They really are a dream to operate...and lift-able.
If I have any problems starting any of my power equipment I take the air filter out and give a short spay of starter/carb cleaner fluid. Never fails. If you do not remove the filter, the cleaner will disolve it.
I have 2 EU2000i's and a parallel "kit". I do not want to have to pay for back surgery either.
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Anyone out there using one of these yet ? I have not seen anyone in our area stocking them. The 73# weight seems very manageable for getting it into the back of a truck and it looks like it would run my AC ( Coleman mach II ). I'm trying to decide between this or two Honda 2000's.
we've had several recent threads on this issue and going back to the release of this newly package 3k...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...tor-58042.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...end-60349.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...0is-57897.html

most of the changes in the new 3k model are DEcontenting to get it lighter.

items mentioned so far...

-LESS housing and LESS muffler which results in a unit up2 4+ times LOUDER than the original 3k or 2x2000 units.

-removal of the electric start and a MUCH smaller fuel tank.

4-5 hours between fueling is really near the NOT practical limit for many.

-and it STILL is under rated for most 13/15k btu ac according to the AC makers recommendations.
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for the o.p. using a coleman/mach/power saver series ac there might be BETTER options....

1. 2000 watt honday appears to be RIGHT at the requirements....

2. a yam ef2400is might be the BEST option....

MUCH larger fuel tank, less noise at peak out put and a few pounds lighter than even the handi'...
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i like the flexibility of carrying 1 or both of the 2k hondays and now paralleling them is so much easier (no kit needed)...

however,

i'd be inclined to give the yam a whirl in the humid summer that middle america camping brings...

and with this SMALL ac and SMALL trailer.

blue over red? this time yes!

and robertsunrus has posted LOTS of info on using his yammer...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f37/...tor-61297.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...ers-47292.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...ors-39684.html



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Old 02-28-2010, 01:32 PM   #36
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my friends in the club, had a yamaha 2400, no good for AC,need a honda 3000.
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