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Old 09-05-2014, 09:18 AM   #15
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The new fuel injected Honda EU 7000 looks interesting.... But I am not sure it will work. It is a dual inverter model, so it's like having two generators again, but in one nice package. My question for you gurus is if you know how they run each hot leg in either the 30/120 or the 50/240 plugs?
There are four receptacles on the EU7000is. #4 is the 240V receptacle, and it has two powered legs, 4A and 4B. Note the voltage selector switch: it has two positions, "120V only" and "120/240V."



The EU7000is has two power generating circuits. In the "120V only" position, they are connected in a parallel circuit for maximum power @ 120V to all receptacles. In the "120/240" position, the two power circuits are connected in series (120 + 120 = 240) to create 240V to receptacle #4.



The actual power works out like this:



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In the "120V only" position, make sure the load on any single receptacle does not exceed the values in the preceding table. In the "120/240" position, balance the load between receptacles; here's another table with specifics:

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Old 09-05-2014, 04:28 PM   #16
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I will want to buy one perhaps next year - funds are looking good for the purchase

Robert - how can you hook up RV 50amp plug into this?

Also - remote start option?? Wants it


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Pharm Geek,

See http://www.rvpowerprotection.com/Lin...%20Service.pdf

Apparently 50A service is really 100A service in that there are two 120v legs, each capable of delivering 50A. You only get 22.9 on each leg per the table that Robert provided. But that should be adequate for running two air conditioners since usually they are wired on opposite 120v legs of the 240 circuit.

I was unaware that 50A service was two 50A 120v legs. So if that is true, then any generator smaller than 12kw can't deliver true 50A service.

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Robert, thanks for that reply it was the information I was looking for. I believe that the Honda 7000 will be perfect for my application as currently we run 30 amp service, and I use every bit of that power. I am going to rebuild our ac side in the next year and upgrade to 50 amp, and I believe 22.9 per leg will be more then adequate. Thanks again great looking generator!

Pharm Geek, I believe the generator will work for your 50 amp bunkhouse. I suspect Al is correct that each air cond are wired on the separate legs of the 240 volt circuit. Each heat pump should run on a 20 amp breaker, so there should be enough in each leg to get you over the initial air cond startup. You may however be limited in running other stuff when ac is on its leg is in use.... You can test this by checking your amp draw on each leg at the 50 amp plug...
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I have spoke with a couple 6500 owners and they seem very happy - the AC units are something like 12-14 amp draw each (as I recall) so it's enough .... I hope to see one in operation from a friend in January and I'll report back


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I have spoke with a couple 6500 owners and they seem very happy - the AC units are something like 12-14 amp draw each (as I recall) so it's enough .... I hope to see one in operation from a friend in January and I'll report back


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I can't wait to see the run time you will get with two AC's and the new 7000. I think it will be just fine, I added the external tanks to our two 2000's because they would only give us around 6 hours on hot summer nights... Since we usually stay in truck stops or flying J's on the road, I wanted to be able to pull in, grab dinner, shower and sleep without having to refuel a hot generator during the night!! Click image for larger version

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I think on the specs its said to go 6 hours at rated load (5.1 gallon tank), 18 hours at 1/4 load.

Even in hot summer in my 30 footer this year, over night both do not run at the same time....but if just arriving to a spot, both will run for a bit of time to get it cold quick...

But for mid-day relief with kids both will need to run....and I have some boondocking planned up in north east alabama around the region of mentone and little river canyon etc...also a buddy of mine has a river side property over west of Tuscaloosa on the black warrior river that I plan to dry camp on a bit as well and this will let us all camp and have plenty of power.

The EU 7000 will also fully service my camper when parked at home when family visit as a guest house and this will prevent me from paying $$$ for 50amp hookup (albeit the 50amp hookup would be really nice). It will also be my power outage workhorse for my main fridge/freezer, and my large standup freezer as well...and some lights and a TV (LED).

My Truck is only driven 99% of the time for towing only, the generator will stay in the truck and the truck is parked in my garage...

The biggest bummer for this possible purchase for me is that I would lose my ability for the most part to use my roll-n-lock bed cover.

Ill mull over such questions through January it seems.

The two honda 2000’s still tempt me....ill continue to think about it

Other benefits it seems is that soon they will offer a remote start option....also it will be able to run other honda gen’s in parallel...

I am not sure if I could one day rent one and try it on a trip and how costly that would be...but will look into that as well.

And if one AC runs, in talking to two owners of 6500’s, its very quiet.
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My first RV, a 1998 Monaco Dynasty 40' diesel pusher, had a 7500 watt Onan Quiet Diesel generator. It had no problem running both roof A/C units and the microwave simultaneously. IIRC, it had tandem 30 amp circuits leading into the 50 amp automatic transfer switch.
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I think on the specs its said to go 6 hours at rated load (5.1 gallon tank), 18 hours at 1/4 load.

Even in hot summer in my 30 footer this year, over night both do not run at the same time....but if just arriving to a spot, both will run for a bit of time to get it cold quick...

But for mid-day relief with kids both will need to run....and I have some boondocking planned up in north east alabama around the region of mentone and little river canyon etc...also a buddy of mine has a river side property over west of Tuscaloosa on the black warrior river that I plan to dry camp on a bit as well and this will let us all camp and have plenty of power.

The EU 7000 will also fully service my camper when parked at home when family visit as a guest house and this will prevent me from paying $$$ for 50amp hookup (albeit the 50amp hookup would be really nice). It will also be my power outage workhorse for my main fridge/freezer, and my large standup freezer as well...and some lights and a TV (LED).

My Truck is only driven 99% of the time for towing only, the generator will stay in the truck and the truck is parked in my garage...

The biggest bummer for this possible purchase for me is that I would lose my ability for the most part to use my roll-n-lock bed cover.

Ill mull over such questions through January it seems.

The two honda 2000’s still tempt me....ill continue to think about it

Other benefits it seems is that soon they will offer a remote start option....also it will be able to run other honda gen’s in parallel...

I am not sure if I could one day rent one and try it on a trip and how costly that would be...but will look into that as well.

And if one AC runs, in talking to two owners of 6500’s, its very quiet.

I have loved my 2000's, but If I did it all over again, I would stick with a large single generator. I plan on doing the same as you and keeping it in the truck full time, however I have no lock and roll, so that will kinda be a bummer for you... For the 50 amp plug for the house, you can buy a nice 50 amp plug with waterproof enclosure for under $30 from Home Depot.

http://t.homedepot.com/p/GE-50-Amp-T...54P/100193650/

The electrical work and breaker should be very affordable (I installed my own plug in under an hour). We keep our bunkhouse powered at the house at all times, it is great as the fridge keeps cold, we can keep it stocked with things like condiments and beer, the ac always runs (and dehumidifier) keeps the interior mold free. Also makes a great man room, I would highly recommend!
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:17 PM   #24
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I run 15 amp cord - keep dehumidifier running - not AC

I turn on Fridge 2 days before planned trip

My trailer is like 100+ feet from breaker box - I'm not electrically inclined and I think the quote I got was like 1800 bucks


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I'm not too worried about the roll n lock - it came with the truck when I bought from Carmax - I like it but often cannot use due to bikes coming along - not much would change -

Good luck

I'll be interested if you go to the single before me and your feedback


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I have essentially the same set up as you. International 30' with two ACs. Thinking of buying the EU7000. Was going to put it in the bed of my truck, but also have the roll & lock. Was thinking of putting it against the tailgate, then a rubbermain tub over it and then slide the roll & lock up against. I'd at least keep water directly out of the inverter while driving around, and people easily seeing it. Then uncover and run it as needed. Loose ability to store and lock other gear. What did you end up doing?
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I own the EU6500 and wired into my house with a manual transfer switch. The house is 4000sf and the generator runs everything, the boiler, pellet stove, 2 refrigerators, lights and computers.

It is louder then my 2000, but much deeper tone. One thing however, it's a tank. Not at all easy to lift into a truck bed. Two 2000s would seem way easier to move around.
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I have essentially the same set up as you. International 30' with two ACs. Thinking of buying the EU7000. Was going to put it in the bed of my truck, but also have the roll & lock. Was thinking of putting it against the tailgate, then a rubbermain tub over it and then slide the roll & lock up against. I'd at least keep water directly out of the inverter while driving around, and people easily seeing it. Then uncover and run it as needed. Loose ability to store and lock other gear. What did you end up doing?

Bought the EU7000

Doubles for confident home backup and for my future property use

I need to post some photos - got my idea from another user on here - bought a hitch with no ball - welded a piece of heavy plate steel to it - drilled 4 holes to match a harbor freight small loading crane - also needed an 18 inch hitch extender to clear the tailgate

I used a piece of 4x4 as a stuff leg under he hitch for additional quick support (although not necessary I believe and I've do e it with both)

Also had the lift kit thing for the generator that allows attachment and lift

I go boondocking (at this point) infrequent so occasional loading is no biggie

I load it up (I can do it alone no prob) and once I load it I leave it - I don't bother with roll n lock and I don't really want a topper - nothing I put back there can be harmed getting wet

I bought the honda cover for it - fits very snug and protects from water and such -
If it rains I will run it in the rain

I plan on later getting the remote start once we get our property later (3-5 years)

I strap it in with a few ratchet straps to keep it steady in transit

We love it so far - really quiet - easy operation - next year I will tell you how it does in hot summer but it has 5.1 gallon tank and at 1/4 load says it can go 18 hours

I watched the panel read wattage as AC unit compressors kicked on - jumped up to like 3800 watts if I recall and that includes I believe background 700 watts before turning the AC on (from converter I assume?)

We are really happy as we have had some annoying times with power outages here in bama - no more - and even in hot summer we can retreat to the AS with our family and stay comfy


Security : use a bicycle lock - also lock the tailgate - insurance beyond that covers me - it would take some special thieves to rob me of that unit with the tailgate locked!!

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