Honda EU2000 x 2 vs Honda EU3000 and Yamaha 3000

[JimGolden]

I was planning to put dual 40's on the front, so maybe the LP powered job is the way to go.

Looking at 8" deep I-Beam frame, 1/8" wall section with 2" flanges. Full depth angle cross members. I calculate it will add about 200lbs to the weight of the trailer, but the frame is then about seven times stronger than the original one. It'd be good for a 15,000 lb gross weight easily. Realistically it'll probably never see 10,000lbs on it, but it'd be plenty strong for anything I want to do.

Hey, do I get three rivets now?

[2airishuman]

hi jim and others.....

bham, bham, bham.....there are your rivets!

reads like you are gonna build a siMON STERn GARAGE trailer....go for it!

might want to start a thread to document this trailer...like many of the rehabers do...these are some of the most viewed on the site....a great learning tools.

ncc is basically how many lbs of stuff can be carried in the trailer....after fluids/lpg are added.

in addition to the frame you're suggesting, you'll need newer torsen axles, with a higher load rating...they make a 5000lb-5500lb axle......not sure about higher....also higher rated wheels, tires and brake to stop it....

that stuff, along with the frame and genset gear...will cost at least as much at the original purchase... right guys? anyone?

except for the rear bath and front kitchen models, usually a/ss have been built with most of the mass over or near the axles.... your plans will add significant mass to the 2 ends...which will effect handling, ride and so on...even with a reinforced frame.

if you are going to the degree descirbed......might as well opt for larger fresh and holding tanks....at least that will bring some mass back to center....and really by time you need a genset....the 3 fuel models/lpg options will be more established....

and don't forget the class V hitch and the top kick to pull it......

i can see the thread now....

"the adventures of the jim's mon'stream"

don't forget the pictures...

cheers
2air'

[jhohe]

What would you suggest? Starting out with one Honda eu2000 and seeing if it will do the job or going to 2 Hondas running parallel

[deadhead]

jhohe, I am also a new member and new owner of a 2006 25' Safari FB SE, and for what it's worth, I'm going with the twin Honda EU2000 set-up. I've read enough, I'm ready to make the move!

[knemir]

I have had the two Hondas running in tandem for a couple of years now and have been very happy with them. They are amazingly quite, easy to move around and have always powered anything I need powered and have had absolutely no problems with them. The nice thing about this configuration is sometimes I only need one and it is really nice not to have to lug a big heavy unit along when I can choose to just take one generator. It seems to have more versitility for me. The Yamaha and the Honda are both good units seems to me it most likely depends on personal preference and specific circumstances.

[dstalzer]

I have a Yamaha 2400iS and have used it with an older 13500 AC on an older SOB trailer and with my current 15000 AC on my AS Classic. The Yamaha has enough boost at startup to get the AC running with no problem. Our most recent camping trip was in the Guadalupe Mountains National Park where we were boondocking for 2 days. The elevation where we camped was around 6000' and the 2400iS performed perfectly to run the AC in the afternoon cooling down a very hot AS. Before buying the Yamaha, I had compared the Hondas and Yamahas and decided that one Yamaha which weighs 70 lbs. would be easier to manage than either a 145 LB. Honda or needing to maintain 2 lighter Hondas. Before purchasing it, I read a test report by Hayes Equipment where they had stress tested the Yamaha 2400iS and it showed to hold nearly 3000 Wats for about 10 seconds when a load was put on it. This is way more than enouch time to get an AC started up and running.

[JimGolden]

I know this is an old thread, but for what it's worth....

I currently have one Honda EU2000i. I AGONIZED over which way to go. It was really a hard decision. I finally decided to get the one EU2000i to start with, and plan to add a second one some day.

So far, I've been very happy with the little Honda. It is indeed truly quiet, and my wife can now blow dry her hair (just couldn't do that on 12v). It does everything except run the a/c.

I was dead set on an EU3000i. But I read these forums and really truly agonized a lot. I also looked hard at the Yamaha's. I think they are excellent products. For me, it came down to red vs. blue, Ford vs. Chevy kind of thing. Flip a coin.

I think you'll do fine with either a Honda or a Yamaha. They're both good stuff. I've not tried to run my a/c with my genset. My dad's buddy has a big 5er and he runs the a/c on his EU2000 all the time. Dad (who is an electrician) says you just put a big start capacitor in them and a 2000w is fine. Well, I've not tried it since I've read all the stuff on here. But anyway, my little red buddy powered my house for 2.5 days when we had a big storm here last winter. I could choose furnace OR fridge, but it kept the place going. I plan to get another one someday soon.

There's a thread on here somewhere where a really smart dude took a plastic boat gas tank and modified it with a Honda gascap to feed his genset. I got me a second gas cap and plan to copy him

Best of luck,

[Cauuck]

I just purchased a Honda EU2000. The dealer says i can run most items except A/C. Anybody had any issues with the Microwave?

I will be using it for my 1998 28 foot, excella.

Paul

[53flyingcloud]

THIS IS THE LATEST INFO FROM HONDA..
The newest model EU3000 weigh only 77# and, has wheels attached on the "front" of it.
I assume that all of the other specs are the same as the older model..Seems that it runs for 4 hrs on a tank. I have photos and, other info if you are interested.?
Here's Honda news release on this.
Honda Introduces New EU3000i Handi Generator
"June 28, 2009 by Debra Fioritto
If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my Daily RV Industry News Feed. Thanks for visiting,
Sherman Goldenberg
Primitive campsites are perhaps the best way to appreciate the outdoors — unless, of course, your RV isn’t fitted with an onboard AC generator to power all the things we just can’t leave behind. The new EU3000i Handi from Honda Power Equipment provides 3kW of portable power — in a package 45% lighter than the company’s EU3000i. Weighing in at just 77.6 pounds, the Handi features built-in wheels, two fixed handles and a folding handle to allow it to be pulled by a single person. The GX160 four-cycle engine also is said to produce a quiet 56-65 dB of sound while in operation. Featuring Eco-Throttle technology and a high-efficiency inverter, the Handi can operate for more than four hours on one tank of fuel.
Contact: Honda Power Equipment, 4900 Marconi Dr., Alpharetta, GA 30005-8847, (770) 497-6400."
ciao
53FC

[TBRich]

Originally Posted by 53flyingcloud

THIS IS THE LATEST INFO FROM HONDA..
The newest model EU3000 weigh only 77# and, has wheels attached on the "front" of it.
I assume that all of the other specs are the same as the older model..Seems that it runs for 4 hrs on a tank. I have photos and, other info if you are interested.?
Here's Honda news release on this.
Honda Introduces New EU3000i Handi Generator
"June 28, 2009 by Debra Fioritto
If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my Daily RV Industry News Feed. Thanks for visiting,
Sherman Goldenberg
Primitive campsites are perhaps the best way to appreciate the outdoors — unless, of course, your RV isn’t fitted with an onboard AC generator to power all the things we just can’t leave behind. The new EU3000i Handi from Honda Power Equipment provides 3kW of portable power — in a package 45% lighter than the company’s EU3000i. Weighing in at just 77.6 pounds, the Handi features built-in wheels, two fixed handles and a folding handle to allow it to be pulled by a single person. The GX160 four-cycle engine also is said to produce a quiet 56-65 dB of sound while in operation. Featuring Eco-Throttle technology and a high-efficiency inverter, the Handi can operate for more than four hours on one tank of fuel.
Contact: Honda Power Equipment, 4900 Marconi Dr., Alpharetta, GA 30005-8847, (770) 497-6400."
ciao
53FC

Finally! A 3000w generator you can actually lift! OK what's the catch? What's the downside of this generator (EU3000i Handi) as opposed to the EU3000iSA? What does the Handi not deliver that the iSA does? Are there any negatives? We really don't want to have 2 generators (2000w x2) to do it all...but also want to be able to handle a single unit. It may be too new to be reviewed.

[mello mike]

Like others, I decided to go with a single Honda EU2000i with the understanding that I would eventually add another when needed. Yesterday, I bought the new Honda EU2000i Companion, which comes with a 30AMP plug in and requires only the two wires for parallel operation. This configuration will save you $40-60 rather than the old $200 Parallel Kit.

[53flyingcloud]

Originally Posted by TBRich

Finally! A 3000w generator you can actually lift! OK what's the catch? What's the downside of this generator (EU3000i Handi) as opposed to the EU3000iSA? What does the Handi not deliver that the iSA does? Are there any negatives? We really don't want to have 2 generators (2000w x2) to do it all...but also want to be able to handle a single unit. It may be too new to be reviewed.

I haven't seen this yet in person but, I am sure others may have..The one thing passed on to me was the size of the fuel tank may not be the same capacity as the older version? I see where Honda says it will run for 4 hrs on a tank(??) of fuel..My Older Honda EU3000 ran for almost 20 hrs in the eco mode during last winter's ice storm outage..It's a promising step toward "lightness"..Gawd, I don't have to tell anyone what a brute the older ones are in weight~

[TBRich]

Originally Posted by 53flyingcloud

I haven't seen this yet in person but, I am sure others may have..The one thing passed on to me was the size of the fuel tank may not be the same capacity as the older version? I see where Honda says it will run for 4 hrs on a tank(??) of fuel..My Older Honda EU3000 ran for almost 20 hrs in the eco mode during last winter's ice storm outage..It's a promising step toward "lightness"..Gawd, I don't have to tell anyone what a brute the older ones are in weight~(Actually, mine now weighs more than me~!!)

Yes, I have determined that the gas tank is smaller...1.56 gal vs 3.4 gal...but that's a good compromise in my opinion...it's still supposed to run 7 hours on 1/4 load...

Here's a comparison of the spec's...the only differences I see outside of the tank size is the AC output rate of 2600W vs 2800W and the 3000iSA has an electric start... are these reasonable compromises? (The new one also costs more.)

[JimGolden]

Man that Handi is SWEET! But at $300 more....and the fact I already have a 2000 watter that I'm very happy with....I guess I'll just buy another 2000 watter.

But had this thing been out last September, my history may have taken a different course. Good job RED!