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10-09-2006, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 22' International CCD
Spotsylvania
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Hi OXBLOOD,
I have a Honda EU-3000. It WILL start and run a 13.5 K Air conditioner. I run mine alot with the Honda. I have a 55 Amp Parallax converter/charger that stays on. You shouldn't have to isolate your inverter?/converter/charger to run your air.
I would recommend a wheel kit for the EU-3000 to move it around. Even though I can lift the generator into the bed of my pickup, I generally use a folding ATV ramp to roll it up into the truck. No need for a hernia. I lock it down with a Krytonite cable lock and a truck cap cover. Strap it down with ratchet hold down straps to keep it from shifting.
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2004 22' CCD
1997 F-150
TAC VA-12
AIR# 4749
ex WBCCI# 1430
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07-14-2007, 08:21 PM
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#62
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Newcastle
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 128
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I have a coleman 7100 btu ac (model 6727-739). We usually only run a tv & some 12 volt lights, & maybe water pump, with this. NO microwave or other high amp draws. I think 1 eu2000 should run this? 1 15 amp plug at home runs everything, (no Problem).
Would like other opinions. Thanks in Advence,
Barkingdogg
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07-14-2007, 09:03 PM
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#63
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkingdogg
I have a coleman 7100 btu ac (model 6727-739). We usually only run a tv & some 12 volt lights, & maybe water pump, with this. NO microwave or other high amp draws. I think 1 eu2000 should run this? 1 15 amp plug at home runs everything, (no Problem).
Would like other opinions. Thanks in Advence,
Barkingdogg
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I wouldn't just think because it could be expensive. Look up the info with your Coleman to see what the amp draw is and what the compressor draw is on startup. Your extension cord should also be large enough to handle the current. The Honda 2000 must meet that draw plus any you have in your trailer at the time. If it doesn't then your A/C will meet a slow death. After you find out what those figures are then let us know. Most of us use 11k, 13.5k or 15k BTU A/C and we would be curious.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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03-23-2008, 04:56 PM
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Hondo was a great cat
2005 28' International CCD
Salt Lake City
, Utah
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 311
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I know this is an oldie but goodie thread but...
I decided on the two 2000 Honda generators. Had one running the other night, the fridge was on, we had a dehumidifier, every light, the radio and it cooked along happy. I am extremely pleased. A bit pricey but worth it. This thread was a big help.
John
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03-24-2008, 07:34 PM
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#65
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2 Rivet Member
1979 25' Tradewind
virginia beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 57
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Honda 2000 are a great generator. Have one will get the other in the next year. i use mine at hunt camp and with the generator within 30' we can still have a conversation at normal level without trying to shout over the roar of a cheaper generator.
last summer we were at a campground and some SOB turned on a very loud generator and left the campground while the machine roared away. our 2000 is so light and portable that we can easily strap it down in the TV and rock and roll
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03-24-2008, 08:49 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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We've got two 2000i's with a six gallon feeder tank. this is a good system, and I can actually easily handle all of the stuff.
Brian
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03-24-2008, 09:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Parallel 'kit' or OEM, also feeder question...
Brian -
After YEARS of sitting on the fence I decided to jump in with BOTH feet and buy 2, yes that's right 2!!!, EU2000i's and luckily they neglected to include the parallel kit that Honda makes....
So, the quiestions are as follows:
1 - Do you have the Honda PK? Down on power as per the reading....
2 - If you have the Gen-Tech kit? Is it really better? (guessing yes, as it allows the peak power that the Honda kit doesn't seem to allow - but still over $200)
3 - do you perhaps have the 'home brewed' version that is at most 1/2 the Honda/ Gen-Tech price and still allows the full power to flow.... Could you PLEASE send photos of the install (with parts list) for those of us that follow slavishly in your pioneering footsteps...!?!?!?
Sorry that I am SO LATE to the Honda Genny party - looking to make up for SERIOUSLY lost time..... and FAST!!!!!!!!!
Thanks
Axel
SilverToy
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03-24-2008, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnerges
I decided on the two 2000 Honda generators....
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good choice john, hope u enjoy the juice!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverToy
... and still allows the full power to flow....
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there are several threads with photos of all three kit types (honda, gen-tech and home brewed..)
but IF both genset are allowed to reach 'peak' power at the 4000 watt level...
that would be MORE than 30 amps (33 or 34) which creates another potential set of issues.
i'd suggest just getting the parallel kit designed specifically for these gensets...
and keep the routine power needs UNDER 30 amps...
cheers
2air'
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03-24-2008, 10:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
, California
Join Date: Dec 2005
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an expert here on the forums said that i could run the air conditioner on just one honda eu2000. the airconditioner burnt up. do i have any recourse? now he claims it was a fluke? what should i do now? k.
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03-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Drop back and .....
Kev -
I would, Drop back and .....
(wait for it!!!!)
(wait for it!!)
(wait for it!)
Sue the guys that created the software, that allowed the web guys to post, the info from the dude, that said the eu2000i would run the AC - CLEARLY "THEY" are to blame for this whole debacle!!!!!!
I would ask for "AT LEAST" 170K so that you can buy that 'Full on Luxury AS' that is on EBay right now with an BIN price of 170K (How odd, the lawsuit price and the EBay prace are EXACT matches - who'd of thunk it?!)
Anyway, just sayin'
Axel
SilverToy
"Your mileage may vary...."
"That rug REALLY tied this room together...."
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03-28-2008, 11:55 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
West of Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
an expert here on the forums said that i could run the air conditioner on just one honda eu2000. the airconditioner burnt up.
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Hi Kevbo, probably the same expert that said that you gotta have a gnarly 3/4 ton Diesel to tow your trailer.
Dave
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"Wimpy" 1/2 ton 2002 GMC Sierra 4X4 Z-71 Gasser
2000 Safari SS 25'
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03-30-2008, 07:01 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,168
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Wasn't me. I'd 'a said he needed a RED truck.
Pat
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03-30-2008, 07:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1990 34' Excella
Windcrest
, Texas
Join Date: May 2005
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My vote is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by rseagle
VAJEEP,
The 3000 will start my 13.5K BTU air conditioner, but probably not any bigger. I rarely use it for that though. It does take some work to wrestle with it, because of its weight.
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I own 2 of the 2000EUi's and love them. Since we upgraded our 34' Excella to a 15k AC I'm glad we made this decision. One downside of the 2000 is that the fuel tank only holds 1.1 gallons.
To change this I purchased 2 new gas caps from Honda and drilled them out. In the new hole, I used some JB weld and glued in an Evinrude marine fitting. The final step was to purchase 2 marine fuel tanks and hoses from Academy Sports and we now have a fuel capacity of 7+ gallons per generator.
No more running out of gas in the middle of the night in the heat of the Texas summer.
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03-30-2008, 08:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Interesting solution....
Swanny -
Interesting solution - on the marine fitting/tank thing, do you have to prime the hoses ie. fuel to the end of the hose before hooking up, or what? please enlighten....
Thanks!
Axel
SilverToy
Kevbo - you DO have a red truck, right?? 3/4 T diesel, but red..! ...? no hemi
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03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
West of Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmclemore
Wasn't me. I'd 'a said he needed a RED truck.
Pat
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That's what I drive...
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"Wimpy" 1/2 ton 2002 GMC Sierra 4X4 Z-71 Gasser
2000 Safari SS 25'
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06-30-2008, 01:19 AM
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Just keep doing things...
1969 27' Overlander
Walla Walla
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 29
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Electrical Data for A/C
Being an engineer, I was compelled to actually test the electrical requirements of our A/S prior to making a genset decision. I used professional fluke equipment to run tests. Here is my data for you to use. Running a new 13.5 AC unit in my 69 Overlander everthing else incl lights and pump turned off:
13.5 A/C = 2820 watts at 115 volts.
Startup draw = 4530 watts peak for less than 1 second.
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06-30-2008, 05:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2001 34' Limited
The State of
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AllenPom
Running a new 13.5 AC unit in my 69 Overlander everthing else incl lights and pump turned off:
13.5 A/C = 2820 watts at 115 volts.
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This is 24.5 amps, well over the roughly 15 amp specification, and considerably over the 20 amp breaker rating most are fed with. I suggest you check your work (it was in RMS, right?)
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06-30-2008, 07:23 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 121
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I contmeplated this heavily before i purchased our 3000is. We're in the south and camping w a generator to run AC is a must from about MAR to OCT. If you run the AC frequently you will fill the 2000's tanks (1.1 gal each) more frequently than the 3000's (3.4 gals).
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06-30-2008, 07:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
Johnson City
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Can you post some pictures of what you did?
Some have used one marine tank to run both with a larger fuel tank. Did you consider that, and am wondering your views on the pros and cons?
73/gus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanny
To change this I purchased 2 new gas caps from Honda and drilled them out. In the new hole, I used some JB weld and glued in an Evinrude marine fitting. The final step was to purchase 2 marine fuel tanks and hoses from Academy Sports and we now have a fuel capacity of 7+ gallons per generator.
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2004 30ft. Classic
2017 Infiniti QX80 Limited
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07-19-2008, 01:45 PM
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#80
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1 Rivet Member
2012 19' Flying Cloud
Bricktown
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Honda EU 3000 vs 2x Honda EU 2000
I own both the Honda Eu2000 and the Eu3000 generators. I am a mobile DJ and I use my generators when I do outdoor events. I bought the EU3000 first, then decided on a more portable unit. Being the owner of both, here is my assessment of each unit
Honda EU2000
+ Portable, lightweight
+ Able to bridge 2 units together for higher output
- Slightly noisier than a EU3000
- Difficult to see when fillling tank because of that fuel strainer. Needs
fuel gauge
Honda EU3000
+ Quiet
+ Plenty of power
+ Fuel gauge & electric start
+ Longer run time
- Heavy to lift especially when filled with gas
In conclusion, I prefer 1 EU3000 over 2 EU2000's because you have more power, longer run time and it's less expensive than 2 EU2000's and a parallel kit. Just buy a $20 dolly from Home Depot and wheel it around. if you can lift 140 lbs onto a truck, go with the EU3000 otherwise, 2 EU2000's will do you fine. I think Honda needs to come out with a unit that fills the gap between the EU2000 and the EU3000 and weighs under 100 lbs.
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