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06-08-2013, 09:24 AM
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Jeff
2013 Interstate Coach
Seattle
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Honda 2000i question
First outing in our new-to-us 2009 20' Flying Cloud. Traveled to a remote area with the 2000i and noticed that it runs appliances fine as usual but will not recharge the batteries even with everything on the coach shutdown. Is this a not-powerful-enough generator problem or crappy battery problem or both? Jeff
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06-08-2013, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
Fountain Inn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkinglet
First outing in our new-to-us 2009 20' Flying Cloud. Traveled to a remote area with the 2000i and noticed that it runs appliances fine as usual but will not recharge the batteries even with everything on the coach shutdown. Is this a not-powerful-enough generator problem or crappy battery problem or both? Jeff
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How are you connecting to your trailer? 30amp cord or 12 volt DC directly to your battery. If 30 amp cord connection, your converter should charge the battery. 12 volt output from generator is not intended to charge the battery.... Only supply 12 volt to trailer
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06-08-2013, 09:44 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
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If you have the trailer plugged into the a/c side of the generator you should be getting power to the batteries via the converter/charger. If the batteries didn't charge then there is a problem in the charging circuit, see if it works hooked up to regular house power. Quick and dirty check list: blow fuse, possibly a switch turned off, tripped breaker, bad connection, bad/weak battery.
The 12v feature on the generator is supposedly to charge batteries, I find it is all but useless, I can get better results using a battery charger plugged into the 110v side.
Aaron
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06-08-2013, 09:58 AM
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If you are plugged into the 110 on the Honda and all seems to be working except the trailer batt(s) are not charging, the problem is not with the genset. You have some other issue within the trailer.
Brian
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06-08-2013, 10:49 AM
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Jeff
2013 Interstate Coach
Seattle
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Connected to generator with 30 amp cord. Sounds like from the responses my next step is to work my way through wahoonc's (Aaron's) checklist). Trailer-to-truck 7-pin plug charges the batteries fine. Scratch that off the list. I'll check house power next to see if it's charging the batteries. Thanks all. Any battery recommendations (AGM, Optima Blue Top, etc) to replace the two Interstate's on board? Jeff
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06-08-2013, 11:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Venice
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkinglet
First outing in our new-to-us 2009 20' Flying Cloud. Traveled to a remote area with the 2000i and noticed that it runs appliances fine as usual but will not recharge the batteries even with everything on the coach shutdown. Is this a not-powerful-enough generator problem or crappy battery problem or both? Jeff
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If your intention is to charge the batteries, there is a cord available for the Honda 2000i supplying 12V for charging batteries. The part number is 32650-892-010AH. It has a special 12V plug and clamps to hookup directly to the batteries.
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06-08-2013, 11:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
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Could the Use/Store switch be involved. I think the battery is isolated if you have Store selected.
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2014 Ram 2500 CTD
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06-08-2013, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airdreamers
If your intention is to charge the batteries, there is a cord available for the Honda 2000i supplying 12V for charging batteries. The part number is 32650-892-010AH. It has a special 12V plug and clamps to hookup directly to the batteries.
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Those things only put out about 8 amps at the 12 volt terminal, gonna take a loooooong time to charge up a big deep cycle battery. I would rather use a battery charger that can hit it hard then taper off as the charge comes up.
Aaron
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06-10-2013, 05:46 PM
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Jeff
2013 Interstate Coach
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Just checked out shore power. It too will not charge my new batteries. It's definitely not a gen problem. There's lots of breaker's in the converter box. But is there a breaker for the converter? 110 appliances work but no charge to the battery. Anyone know a likely place to look to troubleshoot this issue? I ain't no electrician..believe me.
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06-10-2013, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
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Most Airstreams have the converter plugged into a 110 outlet that is controlled by a 110 switch. The converter could just be turned off. Our couch is in the front and the switch is on the road side just behind the couch. Found it with a flashlight late one night when things started getting dim. You should be able to hear the converter hum if it is turned on. That is why they put the switch in.
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06-10-2013, 06:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
Most Airstreams have the converter plugged into a 110 outlet that is controlled by a 110 switch. The converter could just be turned off. Our couch is in the front and the switch is on the road side just behind the couch. Found it with a flashlight late one night when things started getting dim. You should be able to hear the converter hum if it is turned on. That is why they put the switch in.
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I know that my 2012 with the Parallax 7355 doesn't have a switch like this.
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06-10-2013, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Olympia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkinglet
Just checked out shore power. It too will not charge my new batteries. It's definitely not a gen problem. There's lots of breaker's in the converter box. But is there a breaker for the converter? 110 appliances work but no charge to the battery. Anyone know a likely place to look to troubleshoot this issue? I ain't no electrician..believe me.
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There should be a label in the door when you open the power panel that tells which breakers protect which appliance or circuit.
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06-10-2013, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
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I am not well versed on any Airstream built after the Reagan era
However check and see if there is a switch somewhere for the batteries that says "store", there may be some sort of battery disconnect too. Mine is manual, in that I unplug the batteries when I want them disconnected.
Do you have an owner's manual that might shed light on this?
Aaron
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06-10-2013, 08:08 PM
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If the battery isolation solenoid is defective, it won't allow the converter to charge the batteries. The batteries won't operate the stuff inside the trailer, either. The solenoid looks like an old Ford starter solenoid, and they are prone to go south.
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