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03-23-2016, 01:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
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Join Date: Jan 2015
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Next time I'll read the ENTIRE thread before contributing to the insanity!
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2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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03-23-2016, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
The Blue Sky 3024iL is sufficient for the five 100 watt panels on the 23D. We sized the solar charge controller and associated wires to the output of the solar panels.
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It's been quite some time since I sized the solar for my off the grid cabin, but I recall that code required that the controller had to be 125% of the panel rating to account for the potentially higher output during cold temps, snow reflectance, etc. Assuming your panels put out 5.5 -6.5 amps each at STC, have you cut it too close with a 30 amp controller?
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03-23-2016, 05:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Siegmann
It's been quite some time since I sized the solar for my off the grid cabin, but I recall that code required that the controller had to be 125% of the panel rating to account for the potentially higher output during cold temps, snow reflectance, etc. Assuming your panels put out 5.5 -6.5 amps each at STC, have you cut it too close with a 30 amp controller?
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The Blue Sky 3024iL is 40 amps @12VDC, which is how his panels are connected. 30 amps at 24VDC.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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03-23-2016, 09:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Don't most modern controllers have the ability to clamp excess amperage?
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03-23-2016, 09:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Don't most modern controllers have the ability to clamp excess amperage?
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They do have the ability to run over capacity (up to their stated limits) and then 'clip' the output to the designed maximum. Could possibly be a waste of watts left on the roof if the array is too large, but that was a discussion in another thread.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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03-23-2016, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
The Blue Sky 3024iL is 40 amps @12VDC, which is how his panels are connected. 30 amps at 24VDC.
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You know way more about this then I do. So I'm confused that I found this statement in Blue Sky's manual for that controller:
"Do not connect to a PV array capable of producing greater than 32A short circuit current for 12V nominal PV modules, or 24A short circuit for PV modules greater than 12V nominal. Limit input short circuit current to 12A if the 24V input 12V output mode is used".
It's on page 2:
http://www.blueskyenergyinc.com/uplo...E_SB3024iL.pdf
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03-24-2016, 08:09 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Boardman, OR
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Join Date: Mar 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
He should fit right in then.
Also he used a cable from his "car's amp" which means he's a knowledgeable expert.
See, just keeping the snowball going here.
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I didn't attempt to insult anyone. As far as I know since I have almost the same controller is that the load is shown connected to the controller in the instructions. It should be the same for any controller. If you connect all of your loads directly to the battery what is to prevent you from going below 12 volts or whatever the voltage is when you're battery is damaged. Also fyi I attached a solar panel to the car roof. The sub wire as you said is 1/0 or 2/0, more than enough for 100 watts. This power wire comes directly from the battery fused with a 130 or 150 amp fuse. I also didn't claim to be an expert on anything, I read it from the manual u butthead
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03-24-2016, 09:57 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 25' Safari
On
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Posts after a year with no activity should be auto-closed.
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03-24-2016, 11:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
ottawa (greely)
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eksine
I didn't attempt to insult anyone. As far as I know since I have almost the same controller is that the load is shown connected to the controller in the instructions. It should be the same for any controller. If you connect all of your loads directly to the battery what is to prevent you from going below 12 volts or whatever the voltage is when you're battery is damaged. Also fyi I attached a solar panel to the car roof. The sub wire as you said is 1/0 or 2/0, more than enough for 100 watts. This power wire comes directly from the battery fused with a 130 or 150 amp fuse. I also didn't claim to be an expert on anything, I read it from the manual u butthead
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When you get into better inverters you can program them to shut down at specific voltages to prevent damaging your batteries ,they sometimes have built in battery chargers when there is a lack of solar ,they also can be programmed .the charge controller its main job is to charge the batteries as fast as possible without damaging them and maintenance charge for desulfication,the better charge controllers have many settings that can be changed for different types and brand of batteries , there are lots of info on Northern Arizona wind and Suns website, check it out!
Don
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