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Old 12-13-2008, 08:50 PM   #1
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Generators kills RV owner

this week an RV'er died from CO POISONING caused from the gen. exhaust leaking into his RV.
Discussions in other posts have stated how carefull they are in sealing gen. boxes in the RV.
It is the moving RV that breaks the seal that allows CO contamination emitted by the generator.

BE CAREFUL
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:54 PM   #2
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A $20.00 CO detector may have saved his life....
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LP can get you too

My best buddy's dad just died a few weeks ago from a similar thing:

His LP stove in his cabin had a leaking valve. He had cooked and ate dinner and went to bed. He shut the valve off, but it was leaking slowly. As he slept, it filled the cabin full of LP and asphyxiated both he and his dog. Very tragic.

Now this was in a small hunting cabin, but it could just have easily happened in an RV.

I should know the answer to this...but I've never seen an LP detector. I guess they make them? I have a CO detector in my house, but not in the RV. I'd like to get both for it now.

I'm probably paranoid about LP, but I'm uneasy just lighting the oven pilot to bake a pizza (get out the gas welding face shield...) Kind of like with your dad when you're a kid or with the sarge in boot camp; a little healthy fear is a good thing!
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:11 PM   #4
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Yes, they have LP and CO detectors, I have both in my vintage trailer. The LP detector I have is 12v and mounted low because LP sinks, while the CO detector is mounted high because CO rises.

I was very paranoid about the LP when I first got my trailer. Now I just maintain a healthy respect for it.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:32 AM   #5
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I always wondered about CO rising or falling-
He's an article that discusses

Carbon Monoxide and Density
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Most RV's and all built after a certain date are required to have LP detectors, they are mounted fairly low because LP is heavier than air. CO and Smoke detectors will usually do better mounted up higher as pointed out in the article. FWIW I use all three in my home and in my trailers. Also might want to make sure that you use an RV rated detector in your trailer, they apparently are better suited for vibration and temperature extremes.

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I thought all airstreams came with LP DETECTORS as you say mounted at the lowest point (close to the floor) our CO DETECTOR is mounted at bed hight, and of course the SMOKE DETECTOR is on the ceiling.

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I thought all airstreams came with LP DETECTORS as you say mounted at the lowest point (close to the floor) our CO DETECTOR is mounted at bed hight, and of course the SMOKE DETECTOR is on the ceiling.

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Not the older ones. I have a 1975 that does not have a factory installed one on it. Don't recall if the '80 has one or not. All new ones HAVE to have them.

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Hello -wondered if there is any particular brand on the CO and/or LP detectors that are installed or that any here have added to their older model units? I have heard of Safe T Alert (avail. at CampWorld) but wondered if there are others or better?
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Folks, my understanding is that the CO mixes "well" with air, meaning height is not as critical for detector placement. But LP must be low.

For those of you like us who own vintage units, here's a good model detector for CO and LP that we bought for both home and RV:

Multi Gas Detector - Natural Gas, Propane Gas & Carbon Monoxide Gas from First Alert.

We got ours at Walmart online.
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Has anyone bought or used the Safe-t-Alert made by MTI? or one made by CCI Controls? There seem to be 2 different models of the Safe-t-Alert. I'm trying to get more ideas on these. Thanks.
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It's indeed sad to read stories about RV CO2 deaths.
On a trip this Spring we had both Hondas up and running with the trailer buttoned up and the AC running when I heard the chirp of the CO detector. It took a minute to realize what I was hearing and what the problem was. We immediately aired out and moved the Hondas. Be careful out there Airstreamers.
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good point

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It's indeed sad to read stories about RV CO2 deaths.
On a trip this Spring we had both Hondas up and running with the trailer buttoned up and the AC running when I heard the chirp of the CO detector. It took a minute to realize what I was hearing and what the problem was. We immediately aired out and moved the Hondas. Be careful out there Airstreamers.
Even your neighbor in the campground can get you..we once had the RV'r next to use run his truck to keep his trailer's batteries charged, ALL NIGHT LONG, or at least that is what he thought before I had a quick talk with him. His exhaust was only 10 feet from our bedroom window, could have been a real problem.

Yes be careful.
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:26 PM   #14
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remember carbon monoxide is CO (a product of combustion), CO will enter the blood stream paralyze then kill.

carbon dioxide CO2 displaces oxygen then kills (dry ice as a solid)
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