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02-09-2017, 04:48 AM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
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I went with the micro air device. I have not installed it yet. It was referred to in a earlier post. (Should I keep 2 Honda generators). You won't be able to run both AC units, but one will be fine for me. This is "with" the smaller Honda or Yamaha generators that fit under your cover.
Try this link.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f206...ml#post1909480
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Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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02-09-2017, 05:00 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Holly Springs
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vantair
PS. If one removes the gen rubber isolation feet to attach to mounting board and truck bed for size, expect increased vibration transfer and sound level increases far beyond the manufacturer specs.
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I agree. There should be some form of shorter vibration absorber than the original rubber feet, about the thickness of a faucet washer. I made mine from a 1/8" sheet of neoprene.
But the real issue is that the Honda 3000 will be too tall in any event for the OP's truck. I don't suggest the 3000 unless the OP can try before buying to see if it will fit -- the clearance tolerance is small.
Perhaps the best choice is the Champion, or EasyStart + one 2000i?
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2016 FC 25' FB twin
2013 F-150 Lariat CrewCab 3.5 EB 4X4 3.55 axle
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02-09-2017, 05:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon73
I only use propane in mine (no gas to ruin the carburetor).
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Do you hook it up to the propane connection at the front of the trailer? If so, do you have to use the regulator setup that comes with the generator? I really appreciate all the great ideas everyone has given me on this subject.
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02-09-2017, 05:50 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadtech
Do you hook it up to the propane connection at the front of the trailer? If so, do you have to use the regulator setup that comes with the generator? I really appreciate all the great ideas everyone has given me on this subject.
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My trailer is a 2010, so I do not have the propane connection at the front of my trailer. If I did then I would probably try to run from that without using the regulator that Champion provides. Since I do not have that connection, I just take a grill size tank (20 lbs I believe), place it in a milk crate to keep it from tipping over, and leave it in the bed of the truck.
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02-09-2017, 06:22 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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I have to admit that Yamaha was my first choice and Honda was my second choice, but all their 3000+ watt generators were too tall for my application. That is what drove me to the Champion. That being said, I really do like the Champion dual fuel so far.
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02-09-2017, 06:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 702
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Why does Champion have a 3100 watt, 3400 watt, and 3500 watt units? Seem odd to have that many in that size range.
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02-09-2017, 07:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Different price points. For price sensitive people.
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02-09-2017, 07:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 702
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I'm thinking the 3500 must be replacing the 3400. Same 192cc engine on both.
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02-09-2017, 07:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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I remember reading somewhere that the 3400 was just a 3500 "derated" to meet the requirements of a particular retailer. It made sense to me, as a 100 watt difference at that level is really inconsequential. But I can't vouch for the veracity of this as I read it on the internet somewhere, and as you know, the internet sometimes carries inaccurate information....
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02-09-2017, 08:33 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 479
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadtech
Do you hook it up to the propane connection at the front of the trailer? If so, do you have to use the regulator setup that comes with the generator? I really appreciate all the great ideas everyone has given me on this subject.
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On our 2017 Classic the propane is pressure regulated at the trailer. There is no need to use the regulator that comes with the Champion. I did have a shop make a 20 ft. propane hose with a male quick disconnect/connect on each end. You will need a gas hose of whatever length you choose with the quick disconnects on both ends to make it work with the trailer.
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02-09-2017, 08:40 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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I read somewhere that the 3400W and the 3500W Champion dual fuel inverters are identical (mechanically). They have different model numbers based on marketing with various retailers though. I will post the article if I find it again.
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02-09-2017, 08:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon73
I read somewhere that the 3400W and the 3500W Champion dual fuel inverters are identical (mechanically). They have different model numbers based on marketing with various retailers though. I will post the article if I find it again.
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They do show both on Champion's website.
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02-09-2017, 09:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadtech
They do show both on Champion's website.
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And if you do a comparison of the two, the only difference besides the wattage ratings is that somehow the 3500W unit weighs a little less. Only .7 lbs.
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02-09-2017, 09:59 AM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon73
I read somewhere that the 3400W and the 3500W Champion dual fuel inverters are identical (mechanically). They have different model numbers based on marketing with various retailers though. I will post the article if I find it again.
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Very common for retailers (especially big ones like wal-mart) to insist on a "unique" model of product for their stores.
Also very common for manufacturers to build one version of something and then test it under load... the ones that test out higher get a "bigger" label, and the ones that test out lower get a "smaller." label. (For example, this is how computer processors are rated for clock speed.... all the chips are the same, just some go faster when tested so they charge more for them!)
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