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04-20-2016, 07:23 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Generator Prices
I installed an LPG/natural gas kit on two of my generators. It was a straight forward process. (One kit installed on two gens at different times).
They ran well, but started much easier on gasoline when cold.
I started on gas, cut the gasoline valve off, and when the engine started to stumble from lack of fuel I would turn on the LPG.
They WOULD start on LPG, but I know that those recoil starter ropes only have so many pulls in them before they break.
Superat stultitia.
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04-20-2016, 07:36 AM
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2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
I installed an LPG/natural gas kit on two of my generators. It was a straight forward process. (One kit installed on two gens at different times).
They ran well, but started much easier on gasoline when cold.
I started on gas, cut the gasoline valve off, and when the engine started to stumble from lack of fuel I would turn on the LPG.
They WOULD start on LPG, but I know that those recoil starter ropes only have so many pulls in them before they break.
Superat stultitia.
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What would you estimate your fuel consumption on propane compared to gasoline?
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04-20-2016, 07:44 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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I guesstimate about a 30% increase in consumption at a heavy load, maybe 15% at a light load.
Superat stultitia.
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04-20-2016, 07:49 AM
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2006 23' Safari SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
I guesstimate about a 30% increase in consumption at a heavy load, maybe 15% at a light load.
Superat stultitia.
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On propane how many estimated hours run time on a 20 pound bottle?
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04-20-2016, 09:41 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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I never ran on propane long enough to exhaust a bottle. I did the conversion at about the same time that I bought my gas powered Yamaha.
Mainly, my propane gen is meant to be a home backup device now, it is too loud to take camping..
Superat stultitia.
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04-20-2016, 01:59 PM
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1999 34' Excella
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Anyone check out the Generac models?
6719 iX Series 2000 inverter.. today this is a valid link..
http://www.amazon.com/Generac-6719-P...1182246&sr=1-2
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04-21-2016, 03:01 PM
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2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Hutchinson
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Back to the threads title.
I got two Yamaha EF2000iv2's for $831.95 a piece. Got the Parallel Power RV Cables for $84.95 and shipping was $69.51. No Tax.
Total was $1818.36
RV Parts Nation
Hope the math is right.
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04-21-2016, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Lots of good sources being mentioned here. So much to consider.
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04-21-2016, 03:12 PM
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2014 31' Classic
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I converted my existing pair of Honda eu2000 generators for under $800 to propane only. They start on the first pull. I can attach one to the propane outlet on the front of either trailer or the pair to my spare 30 pound propane tank with a special regulator with two feed hoses. They were in the $1,000 class each when I purchased them in 2013 with no scales tax as they were shipped to me..
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04-21-2016, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenb
I got two Yamaha EF2000iv2's for $831.95 a piece. Got the Parallel Power RV Cables for $84.95 and shipping was $69.51. No Tax.
Total was $1818.36
RV Parts Nation
Hope the math is right.
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Hmm. Price shows $873 now? But I'm seeing free shipping.
http://www.rvpartsnation.com/rv-generators/
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04-21-2016, 03:29 PM
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2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
I converted my existing pair of Honda eu2000 generators for under $800 to propane only. They start on the first pull. I can attach one to the propane outlet on the front of either trailer or the pair to my spare 30 pound propane tank with a special regulator with two feed hoses. They were in the $1,000 class each when I purchased them in 2013 with no scales tax as they were shipped to me..
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$800 for two conversions? Conversion kits are under $200 each.
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04-21-2016, 03:45 PM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
$800 for two conversions? Conversion kits are under $200 each.
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For US Carb versions. The Genconnex version is $400/ea.
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04-21-2016, 06:05 PM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Is that a brand of generator? He said he had Honda 2000.
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Well they sell converted Hondas with their kit and sell them with their Genconnex label on them, or you can buy the conversion kit and do it yourself. I think they have them for other brands but they have them for 2000, 3000 and 7000 series Hondas. You remove the gasoline capability and its exclusively propane or CNG. Everything's contained in the Honda case. Here's an unofficial video (without a lot of installation detail). He starts by taking off the US Carburetor version he initially installed so you can see both types.
http://youtu.be/bcE1mptZjuo
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04-21-2016, 06:18 PM
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2006 23' Safari SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Well they sell converted Hondas with their kit and sell them with their Genconnex label on them, or you can buy the conversion kit and do it yourself. I think they have them for other brands but they have them for 2000, 3000 and 7000 series Hondas. You remove the gasoline capability and its exclusively propane or CNG. Everything's contained in the Honda case. Here's an unofficial video (without a lot of installation detail). He starts by taking off the US Carburetor version he initially installed so you can see both types.
http://youtu.be/bcE1mptZjuo
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Thanks, I already found their website. That is why I removed my question.
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04-21-2016, 06:42 PM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Their website has been funky lately. Apparently they were getting their kit gov't certified and not advertising them for a while. I called and ordered 2 kits yesterday for my 2000 and companion unit.
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04-21-2016, 07:53 PM
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2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Their website has been funky lately. Apparently they were getting their kit gov't certified and not advertising them for a while. I called and ordered 2 kits yesterday for my 2000 and companion unit.
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Sorry but have to ask. Why buy their kits when basically the same and proven kits are half the cost from the othe company?
Still trying to learn what I need to make a proper decision.
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04-21-2016, 08:17 PM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Not sure there's "a" proper decision.
I met them at an RV show and really liked what they offered, I liked the clean look and fit of the Genconnex kit (regulator fits inside the case, not bolted outside of it), I know I only want to use propane for the generators, I talked with folks who have them (including Switz), I checked reviews (even recent ones) that talked of the US Carb version having a bit of a challenge with the seal at the carb which sucks dirt in (and I take that with a HUGE grain of salt....) and while the US Carb version is less than half the price, for me, I felt the features and fit were more to my liking. Everyone's mileage varies so do whatever floats your boat. 😀
Oh - and I'm not yet retired so if I'm going to splurge on stuff like this (or an exit door I hope I'll never use) I figure now's the time to do that 😀
Don't think you could go wrong with either version - these two and Maine Diesel seem to be the top 3 choices based on what I've seen so far.
Good luck!
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04-21-2016, 08:30 PM
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2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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The review video is impressive. I certailnly like the clean look of the install.
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04-22-2016, 12:55 AM
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2014 31' Classic
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First conversion took about 1.5 hours reading and re-reading the instructions. The second one took about 45 minutes. Have to use a microwave to heat the rubber piece to go over a fitting, but otherwise it was a simple process. They started on the first pull after the installation which is better than the units would do on gasoline.
I have both a spare 20 and 30 pound propane tank. They suggest the 30 pound tank to run two units in cooler weather or higher altitudes. The 20 pounder can not release the gas from the liquid fast enough for two units under those circumstances.
This propane conversion allows us to carry one generator inside the Mercedes with no fumes when towing the 23D. Can even have the 30 pound tank along with the grill, air compressor and the basic Hensley hitch tools and a tire ramp inside the car and still be legal across the scales with both of us in the car.
The combination of one 2000 watt Honda and the Magnum MSH-3012 hybrid inverter coupled to our 300 amp-hour lithium battery allows for the air conditioner to be run from generator power if desired. The battery supplies the necessary power for the starting surge of the 13.5K BTU air conditioner.
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