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Old 07-20-2016, 01:07 AM   #29
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Posted our unboxing / setup video here: http://www.casarocinante.com/Blog-As...deos/i-8NPvBvs
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:00 AM   #30
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Hi, great video. I have two comments. The neutral bonding adapter, is this like a bootleg ground, or what they call a fake ground? My generator shows no ground on my polarity tester. Also, I know you only did it for a short time and I have accidentally done it to my Micro-wave, but they say to never turn them on with nothing in them. Could possibly damage the micro-wave oven.
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Old 07-20-2016, 08:05 AM   #31
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Wouldn't a tri fuel mod void the Honda warranty too?

Nice to read GenConnex pays for warranty shipping.

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Old 07-20-2016, 08:44 AM   #32
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Wouldn't a tri fuel mod void the Honda warranty too?

Nice to read GenConnex pays for warranty shipping.

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See Post #28.

Thanks Rocinante for the video and follow up.

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Old 07-22-2016, 10:07 AM   #33
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Thanks for the excellent video. Nice having the low pressure port and the 30amp connector in the front of the Airstream.

My GenConnex Honda 2000 is due next Wednesday. I went with the Honda 2000 with the two 20amp plugs as the RV2 kit was $250 more and I don't have a low pressure port. I'll make my own NG plug and use it in one 20amp receptacle and plug my 30amp with 15 amp pigtail in the other 20amp receptacle.

I'll power the generator from a 20lb LP bottle or hook it up to one of my 30lb tanks using the supplied 6ft regulator/hose.

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GenConneX Propane Conversion for Honda EU2000i

You're most welcome on the video, glad it was helpful. I need to put up a blog post to go with it, but this was the quickest way to share.

Your solution sounds perfect. As I understand, It's not particularly difficult to make an NG plug and with only one generator we can't really pull more than 20 amps anyway.

BTW, we're dry camping this weekend and our generator is turning in an excellent hassle-free performance.

Wish I could say the same for our pair of stock flooded group 24 batteries. May have to replace them as they seem unwilling to hold a charge of more than 12.5 volts. By morning, down to 12.1 - 12.2, which seems lame as the charts I read say healthy batteries fully charged should read 12.75 volts and that 12.1 is 50% charge. Given we started our trip yesterday morning with what should have been full batteries, drove here, shut the generator off at 9:00pm after charging for several hours via our PD4655 converter, and then ran nothing more than the fridge on propane, a Fantastic Fan on low, and a couple of LED lights before going to bed, it seems a pretty disappointing performance. We convinced our dealer replace them early last year under warranty, but I'm still not feeling the love from these batteries.

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Thanks for the excellent video. Nice having the low pressure port and the 30amp connector in the front of the Airstream.

My GenConnex Honda 2000 is due next Wednesday. I went with the Honda 2000 with the two 20amp plugs as the RV2 kit was $250 more and I don't have a low pressure port. I'll make my own NG plug and use it in one 20amp receptacle and plug my 30amp with 15 amp pigtail in the other 20amp receptacle.

I'll power the generator from a 20lb LP bottle or hook it up to one of my 30lb tanks using the supplied 6ft regulator/hose.

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Modified our pair of 2000 watt Honda generators with the GenConneX conversion this spring (2016). The warranty expired a long time ago as they were acquired in 2013 for the first trailer (2013 25FB International Serenity).

Extremely happy with their performance and no longer have to carry gasoline inside the tow vehicles as both tow vehicles have diesel motors.
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It's my understanding the GenConnex mod does void the Honda warranty.
Modifying your Honda Generator to run on propane will NOT void the original, 36-month Honda factory warranty. But, there are some things to keep in mind:

(1) Let's say you converted an EU2000i to run on propane. A month into the warranty period, the recoil starter gets jammed up, and some internal springs and claws failed. The failure of the starter has no relation to the conversion project. Provided the dealer determines the failed starter was defective, Honda's warranty would pay for new one to be installed.

(2) Same situation, an EU2000i converted to propane. But, this time, the problem is a burnt exhaust valve and cooked exhaust valve guide. Due to the higher combustion temps associated with propane, the failed valve was likely due to the conversion. Honda would decline to pay for repairs, as the failure was NOT due to a defective part.

(3) While were on the subject of gasoline--->propane conversions: Honda generators are certified by federal EPA and California ARB to run ONLY on regular unleaded gasoline. Conversion to a propane or natural gas without an approved lab re-certifying emissions compliance is considered 'tampering' and is a violation of EPA and California ARB regulations.

Don't be fooled by conversion companies that claim their kits are "EPA approved." What that really means is the loose PARTS sitting in the kit box are individually approved by the EPA for use on small gasoline/propane/LNG engines, but then installing them on an engine/generator does not automatically make it 'legal' and is, in fact, still considering tampering. Without having an approved lab re-certify the converted unit, it remains in violation of EPA regulations. Now this doesn't mean an EPA enforcement officer is going to come by your house and write you a ticket, of course, but just be aware of the rules.
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Looks really nice. I wanted the benefit of tri-fuel so I used the US Carburetor solution with the Yamaha gen. While I bought my gen to work on the high pressure side of my Airstream (it has no low pressure outlet), I do plan to make this generator a big part of keeping my critical circuits powered at home. I already have a quick disconnect natural gas line that I use for my BBQ grill out on the deck, so running at home will eventually be natural gas powered.

What was interesting was to see the transfer switch set components that are also shown on GenConneX's web site. I was in a quandary as to how much a local electrician would hit me for the components but GenConneS seems to have it all in order. I think I'll look into getting the small transfer switch unit from them (switch1). Then it's just a matter of getting the outside outlet on the deck and the connecting wiring between the outlet and the switch. http://www.genconnexdirect.net/gener...r_switches.htm

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According to the GenConnex website regarding EPA Certified (Enough Protection Already)

Are your products EPA Certified? Yes, all of our kits and converted generators have been tested as new generators or kits to be installed in specific generators (our EPA manufacturing designation is NEG) and approved by the EPA for sale as kits and converted new generators. The regulation for small non-road spark-ignition engines and equipment kits and generators is CFR Title 40, Chapter I, Subchapter U, Part 1054 found HERE. kits are addressed specifically in Part 1054.645 found HERE, The testing required for certification is per Part 1065 “Calculations, equipment & data” found HERE, and a new mandatory bond starting at $25,000.00 must be posted by all manufacturers of generators, kits and accessories intended for modifying any fuel system in any way. And yes, this process is very expensive, can take up to a year to complete and is required for each generator class.

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Received my GenConneX Honda 2000 yesterday. Just have to buy the oil. I purchased a new 20lb tank and got it purged and filled this morning. I'm going to make a NG plug. I'll try it out this weekend on the trailer.

Rocinante's package included the Honda 2000 companion with the 30amp plugs, mine is the 20amp plug model.

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Sounds great, looking forward to your progress report!

As a point of reference for readers who may wonder about NG plugs for generators like this one: http://noshockzone.org/generator-gro...utral-bonding/
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Wow! That is an expensive conversion. I think I paid $99 for mine, from a company in WVA, many years ago. (2006)

I have run my A/C with two Honda EU2000i's, one on gas, and one on propane. I had an RV size 34 gallon tank in the back of my pickup, at the time, and the Honda on propane ran continuous for 3 days.

Prior to the conversion, it ran almost continuously after Hurricane Frances, for almost 7 days. That prompted me to do the conversion.

You do lose some portability, having to drag an extra tank, but it's worth it in my opinion. I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Yes, even the kit is expensive, but I prefer the design over the kits that mount regulators along the side of the case. I imagine this little Honda will last for many years, if my 1994 Honda lawnmower is any indication.

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