Gasoline Generator to Propane

[NoResults]

Two years ago I converted my generator to tri fuel it will run on gasoline, propane or natural gas.

The company I bought it from is having what I believe is a great sale.

Check it out if you are thinking of this.

Nearly Half Priced Motor Snorkel

Dave

[Wayne&Sam]

As a previous customer, I also got an email from them about this. I'd been planning on converting my Honda EU100i and jumped on this deal.

If you're interested, it's only for this weekend.

[Trailbob]

Your post is very timely, since I was about to convert my Honda 2000 to tri-fuel, and was considering this kit. I have a couple of questions for those who used the US Carb snorkel kit.

Has the snorkel adapter been durable? I watched a YouTube video where the owner said he had to replace the first one because the gas input broke off the snorkel adapter due to vibration.

Is there a special code to get the discount, or does the sale start this weekend? I don't see any mention of a discount or sale when I follow the link.

Thanks- Bob

[Argosy Heir]

Found it in the Ebay store . Just bought the conversion for my Yamaha.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251557457130...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They also have other items on sale .

[Wayne&Sam]

Sale code is "halfoff"

[twolanehwy]

What is the advantage of propane powered?

[Ted S.]

The link says its $187 and makes no mention of a sale, so is the sale over?

[Wayne&Sam]

Enter the code halfoff

[Wayne&Sam]

Originally Posted by twolanehwy

What is the advantage of propane powered?

You don't have to carry gasoline, you can use your LP tanks.

[NoResults]

Also you could use the generator at home with natural gas if you have it. Would be great for a power outage. I have only run mine on gasoline to break it in, and used propane since. Nice not to have to carry gasoline. The engine should run cleaner.

Dave

[ROBERT CROSS]

Whats the advantage of tri-fuel if you don't use one of the tri's?.....

I've found that the way we use our generator at home during an outage, it's more convenient to use petrol ...usually have plenty on hand for all the other 'stuff'.

I've also found it's easier to start on gas and switch to LPG in cold weather & at altitude.

YMMV....

Bob

[Ted S.]

What's the difference between tri-fuel and the high pressure propane gasoline option?

[Wayne&Sam]

Tri fuel will also run on natural gas. Tri is the one on sale

[Wayne&Sam]

I just did the conversion using the kit that was on sale. VERY easy to do.

[synapticon]

Is there a concern of the higher ignition temperature of propane (920-1020 F) vs. gasoline(475-536 F)? Apparently these conversions are not recommended by any manufacturer and can void the warranty. Does it damage the engine?

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by synapticon

Is there a concern of the higher ignition temperature of propane (920-1020 F) vs. gasoline(475-536 F)? Apparently these conversions are not recommended by any manufacturer and can void the warranty. Does it damage the engine?

No...

1. Storability,*Propane does not go bad and can be stored indefinitely. Modern gasoline, on the other hand, has a shelf life of only a month or two without stability additives, and even then cannot often be stored longer than six months before degrading.

2. Cleanliness,*Propane is not spilled like gasoline when refueling. It is estimated that Americans spill 17 million gallons of gasoline each year refueling small engines. This represents an environmental hazard as well as a safety hazard, since hot engine parts can cause spilled gasoline to catch fire.

3. Reduced Emissions, Propane burns much more efficiently (around 90-95% efficient) than gasoline and produces less carbon monoxide and other greenhouse gases. Propane does not evaporate like gasoline, so the evaporative emissions are reduced as well.

4. Extended Engine Life,*Propane has less BTUs of energy per unit than gasoline.*While this means that it takes more propane than gasoline to power an engine, the advantages are that less energy is wasted in combustion of propane. Engines run on propane run cooler, which means less stress on internal engine parts and extended engine life.

5. Extended Service Intervals,*Propane does not gum up over time like gasoline, because it is a gaseous and not a liquid fuel,*so carburetor problems are not an issue. Propane combustion does not produce excess carbon and gunk like gasoline, and so propane engines typically have a longer interval between oil changes.

6. Portability, *Propane in the disposable cylinders is easier to transport than gasoline.

7. Adaptability, Mixture adjustment, altitude compensation.

Nine years & counting...



Bob

[synapticon]

If all your points are true, and I'm in agreement on these, why does a conversion void the warranty and why don't Honda and Yamaha offer conversion kits? Seems like a no-brainer with the advantages of propane. Odd that this point hasn't surfaced in this forum. In the Q&A at Power Equipment Direct they give a lengthy warning implying engine damage. Clearly you haven't experienced this damage. Maybe it's a CYA statement where they are concerned with "certification" for emissions compliance.

[twolanehwy]

Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

No...

1. Storability,*Propane does not go bad and can be stored indefinitely. Modern gasoline, on the other hand, has a shelf life of only a month or two without stability additives, and even then cannot often be stored longer than six months before degrading.

2. Cleanliness,*Propane is not spilled like gasoline when refueling. It is estimated that Americans spill 17 million gallons of gasoline each year refueling small engines. This represents an environmental hazard as well as a safety hazard, since hot engine parts can cause spilled gasoline to catch fire.

3. Reduced Emissions, Propane burns much more efficiently (around 90-95% efficient) than gasoline and produces less carbon monoxide and other greenhouse gases. Propane does not evaporate like gasoline, so the evaporative emissions are reduced as well.

4. Extended Engine Life,*Propane has less BTUs of energy per unit than gasoline.*While this means that it takes more propane than gasoline to power an engine, the advantages are that less energy is wasted in combustion of propane. Engines run on propane run cooler, which means less stress on internal engine parts and extended engine life.

5. Extended Service Intervals,*Propane does not gum up over time like gasoline, because it is a gaseous and not a liquid fuel,*so carburetor problems are not an issue. Propane combustion does not produce excess carbon and gunk like gasoline, and so propane engines typically have a longer interval between oil changes.

6. Portability, *Propane in the disposable cylinders is easier to transport than gasoline.

7. Adaptability, Mixture adjustment, altitude compensation.

Nine years & counting...



Bob

hey Bob, got any close up shots o your mounting??
use two holes and spacers?
Does your line to tank have a regulator to step down pressure?

[switz]

I did the GenConneX propane only conversion of both of our Honda 2000 watt generators. The entire conversion is installed inside the case of the generator so there are no new external parts to get broken off the unit. They both started on the first pull after the assembly process.

We can carry one generator unit inside the Mercedes when towing the 23D and have no gasoline fumes inside the car from a gasoline can or the generator gas tank. I have the choice of carrying my spare 20 or 30 pounds propane tank, or on a short trip, just connect to the front propane outlet on the hitch (of either) trailer. We have their special regulator with two hoses to be able to run both units off of the 30 pound propane tank when taking the truck and Classic.

The first conversion took me about 90 minutes as I double checked each step. The second took about 45 minutes as I was familiar with the process.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by twolanehwy

hey Bob, got any close up shots o your mounting??
use two holes and spacers?

Yes..three mounts & spacers w/washers..two on top, one on the bottom.


Better pic of the lower mount...POI...the foam doughnut keeps the dirt out


Does your line to tank have a regulator to step down pressure?

Yep..


Storage...



Bob