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08-05-2019, 08:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Southlake
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 496
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Finally installed Easy Start
I had to wait until one of the hottest days of the year to get on the roof. Install was pretty straightforward. Hardest thing was not getting cramps in my 74 year old body! Startup amps is now 15-16 after the learning process. I should be able to leave one of my Honda 2000 generators at home now. We don’t usually camp without full hookups, but we plan on several days at the north rim of the Grand Canyon and several in the Davis Mountains on the trip home. I also replaced the 4 yr old Interstate 12v batteries with Trojan 6v’s.
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2016 Flying Cloud 26u
2017 Silverado Duramax 4x4
Equalizer Hitch
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08-06-2019, 04:37 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Cumberland
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 335
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We also had Easy Starts installed at Doswell plus purchased Hutch Mountain propane regulator and a Honda EU2200i with propane conversion. Hooked up to propane and generator goes into overload after about five minutes of running one AC. Will investigate further today, need to make up something so I can measure the current. Slightly disappointed at this point.
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08-06-2019, 04:41 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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It will work out. I can run my 15K unit on a Honda 2000eu.
Did you do all the “Learn Starts”?
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08-06-2019, 04:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,333
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And did you make sure there were no other loads on the generator- refrigerator, converter, water heater on electric?
If it overloaded after some time, probably something else kicked on. The converter did it to me.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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08-06-2019, 05:22 AM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead2018
We also had Easy Starts installed at Doswell plus purchased Hutch Mountain propane regulator and a Honda EU2200i with propane conversion. Hooked up to propane and generator goes into overload after about five minutes of running one AC. Will investigate further today, need to make up something so I can measure the current. Slightly disappointed at this point.
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Just tagging along to see what resolved this issue!
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08-06-2019, 09:11 AM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 958
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
And did you make sure there were no other loads on the generator- refrigerator, converter, water heater on electric?
If it overloaded after some time, probably something else kicked on. The converter did it to me.
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2018 FC25RT
I will have to check if something else kicked in, because my Yamaha 2000 overloaded when I only used one.
Am I wrong to assume that one gen should operate a single AC unit assuming nothing else was running (Microwave, TV, etc.)?
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08-06-2019, 09:15 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2020 30' Classic
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Blue Ridge
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 215
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Found out that running the AC with the Honda 2000 after Easy Start worked fine but could not run anything else without tripping the breaker. Mainly the refrigerator. Did not try running TV or any other elect devices while the AC was on generator.
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08-06-2019, 09:19 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Selbyville
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 216
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You have to run your refrigerator and HW heater on propane while running A/C on a single Honda EU 20001. And obviously no microwave!
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2016 25' RBT Flying Cloud "Bullseye"
2016 Chevy 2500 High Country Duramax Diesel
WBCCI #9026 Delmarva Unit
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08-06-2019, 09:21 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Selbyville
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 216
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And does anyone know for sure that if you install an Easy Start before your AC warranty runs out that it will void the warranty?
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2016 25' RBT Flying Cloud "Bullseye"
2016 Chevy 2500 High Country Duramax Diesel
WBCCI #9026 Delmarva Unit
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08-06-2019, 11:13 AM
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Camping Dutchman
2018 33' Classic
Manchester center
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 52
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How to switch off converter on a 2018 classic?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
And did you make sure there were no other loads on the generator- refrigerator, converter, water heater on electric?
If it overloaded after some time, probably something else kicked on. The converter did it to me.
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Anybody knows how to switch off the converter on a 2018 classic so no auxiliary power is drawn while running Ac on Honda 2000 with easy start?
Is it simply a breaker? Have not been at my trailer and tested my easy start set up with generator.
My understanding is that you turn on converter when turning off the Ac and charge up the batteries.
I have solar too.
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08-06-2019, 12:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1998 31' Excella 1000
Clear Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by truffies
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Question: Site says Specs; Working voltage 80-260VAC/Test Voltage: Same.
So how dies this work on 12 volt DC?
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08-06-2019, 04:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Cumberland
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 335
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Well remember I am running off Propane which reduces my power. Converter is off while running one AC with my EU2200i off propane. It (the gen) is basically running at it's limits and the Easy Start views the generator as getting ready to fail and it shuts down. At least that's one explanation. We will do some more testing but will have to wait under we get our Classic out of the shop. Also found out rear AC will run with ECO Throttle in the off position.
FYI, AC running full bore at around 15 amps.
GMFL: Yes we did all the starts and then some.
Wayne & Sam: Converter is off.
jamieb1086: Per Dometic Easy Start will not void warranty
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08-06-2019, 04:23 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Bluffton
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 213
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I had a older Honda 2000 when I installed easy start on our 15k ac earlier this year. With converter breaker switched off and refrigerator on propane and everything else off I couldn’t get it to run AC on gas. Did tuneup on gen still no go. Next bought a new 2200 and had no problem on gas. Don’t know if it would work on propane. So I’ve put a hold on ordering the Hutch Mountain propane regulator. My EMS says I’m drawing 14 amps from 15k ac.
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08-06-2019, 05:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Airstream - Other
Airstream - Other
Lady Lake
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,159
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Power
On propane there is less power output on any engine not designed with a timing map curve to handle propane. Also there is no lubrication on the exhaust valve with propane
A dual fuel dedicated generator is usually more effective than a conversion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead2018
We also had Easy Starts installed at Doswell plus purchased Hutch Mountain propane regulator and a Honda EU2200i with propane conversion. Hooked up to propane and generator goes into overload after about five minutes of running one AC. Will investigate further today, need to make up something so I can measure the current. Slightly disappointed at this point.
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08-06-2019, 06:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
Salt Lake City
, Utah
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieb1086
And does anyone know for sure that if you install an Easy Start before your AC warranty runs out that it will void the warranty?
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The guys at Airstream Factory Service Center told me that installing the easy start would void the warranty for my air conditioner. I had about a year left on my warranty but decided to go for it anyway. The easy start makes it possible to run the air conditioner with my Genconnex propane powered Honda 2200 generator. I think it was way worth the warranty trade off.
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08-06-2019, 07:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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MicroAir covers the Air conditioner against their EasyStart causing problems once their unit is installed. See their website for details
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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08-06-2019, 11:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 249
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Can I run my AC with easy start on my home 110v?
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08-07-2019, 02:36 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Cumberland
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 335
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
MicroAir covers the Air conditioner against their EasyStart causing problems once their unit is installed. See their website for details
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For a fee they have a blanket policy
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08-07-2019, 03:12 AM
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Stay Calm and Stream On
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Palm Springs
, California
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 313
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I have found for me the Honda 2200i will not run 15k AC at about 7000 feet in Santa Fe New Mexico with Refrigerator on propane and nothing else on. Same situation, the AC runs for about five minutes and then shuts compressor off. I also have Zamp 180 portable and batteries at 90% +. I did not switch off converter.
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