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Old 06-01-2007, 08:43 PM   #15
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Personally, I think a person serves themselves well by choosing a Yamaha or Honda if they need a portable. If an installed unit is in order, however, I still throw my hat in the ring for Onan. They are expensive, but are quality units.

Every since Ford became a major stock holder of Cummins, they seem to have focused on large units, not RV sized stuff. They push the Cummins for diesel power and Ford motors for gas. As a result, they have lost the smaller power plant (RV) market.

These cheap contracted units, however, will do nothing but ruin the name!
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:50 PM   #16
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You might want to double check on that.
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Yea, I know - the name 'Ford' does not show up on the stock exchange listing: </title> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.2" TYPE="text/javascript"></SCRIPT> <link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="http://i.mktw.net/styles/css/global_small_tweak2.css"><link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS Feed" href="http:/

That said, if company One owns a portion of shares of company Two, and company Two owns a portion of shares of company Three, doesn't that mean that company One is part owner of company Three?

Try to buy a large gas powered Onan generator minus the Ford motor.
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From a Cummins FAQ:
http://www.cummins.com/jp/pages/en/c...B380C4A8F0FC10

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Does Ford own Cummins?

No, at one point Ford owned less than 10% of Cummins stock, but now Ford doesn't own any Cummins stock.
As far as I can tell, Onan is a part of Cummins: Cummins Onan Branding
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Today Onan branded products are built by Cummins Power Generation, a subsidiary of Cummins Inc.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:34 PM   #19
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My Honda-owning friend has made a compelling case for his unit.

"Get the Honda," he says. "It's like buying an Accord: they run like clockwork, and they're everywhere -- you'll never have a problem finding parts or service."

This begs the question...is the boost feature of the Yamaha worth more than the reputation/reliability of the Honda?
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:23 PM   #20
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My Honda-owning friend has made a compelling case for his unit.

"Get the Honda," he says. "It's like buying an Accord: they run like clockwork, and they're everywhere -- you'll never have a problem finding parts or service."

This begs the question...is the boost feature of the Yamaha worth more than the reputation/reliability of the Honda?
That is a loaded question.....there are many who would put Yamaha on the same level of reliability as Honda, therefore you are not necessarily sacraficing reliability to go with the Yamaha 3000 w/boost.

I went with the Yamaha because it appeared that it would be quieter and would have a longer run time on a tank of gas. After purchase and a year of use, I found this to be true. Although I have not confirmed this regarding the Honda, but once the unit throttles up for heavy loads, the econo-throttle function needs to be reset to keep the idle down and the noise at a minimum, the Yamaha does this automatically. Perhaps a Honda 3000 owner can confirm or discount this issue.

Bottom line, except for the weight issue of both Honda 3000 and Yamaha 3000, it seems that almost all owners are happy with their decision.

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Old 06-04-2007, 07:28 PM   #21
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I run two Honda 2000's in parallel. Quiet as can be and stingy with the fuel. Ramp up nicely from eco-mode when needed, then, they ramp right back down. First time out we were camping in a field at a fairgrounds.
I felt obliged to caution those setting up near by that I was running generators. The response was always that they would not have noticed had I not mentioned it. Handles everything in trailer. On a three day weekend I only used 5 gallons of gas. Had the generators off at night. But, a good part of the day they were running. I also use the siphon auxillary tank system listed in the Forums classified section. Fill the generator tanks and the auxillary tank, then you're good to go for a couple of days. A good weekend of use warrants an oil change with any generator though. Build up in oil is readily noticed.
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I was just recently trying to decide between Honda and Yamaha 3000w generators.

The Yamaha won. I liked the 500 extra watt boost that Yamaha had, and I also liked that the Yamaha came with wheels and two big handles for moving around.

I took the Yamaha 3000 out to the desert this weekend and it worked great. The only things I would ask Yamaha.

1. Why didn't they create a spot for the gas lid to set while filling? I had to put it in my pocket because I didn't want to set it on something dirty.

2. Why did they create the handles in black? After sitting in the sun these handles got really hot, not to mention the one thats directly above the exhaust was REALLY hot.

3. Somehow some way I had about 50 tiny moths in my gas level guage. I have no idea how they got in there, but they did and this was kinda annoying to have 50+ moths flying around in there. After they died they dissapeared so I'm glad I wont have a moth graveyard up there, hopefully bigger bugs don't get up in there.

4. Is there a gas tank accessory to boost the tank size? The tank lasts a really long time when I'm doing basic stuff like lights, water pump, laptop, microwave - but as soon as I fire up the AC in the desert it's looking like a 4 hour tank.

Overall really happy with the Yamaha, and I'm glad I went with the underdog so to speak.. everyone tells me Honda's are the best, but in my opinion that only gives Yamaha more to prove. Have fun trailering, bye!

PS. I had left my trailer water heater on for my trip out to the desert, so my battery was dead when I got there... on top of that I forgot my adapter that allows my trailer to plug into a standard outlet/generator... so I was out of power with no way to connect!!!! Thankfully the Yamaha comes with a 12v outlet and alligator clips.. So I was able to charge my trailer batteries and run things in the camper until the next day when I could buy an adapter.
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I was just recently trying to decide between Honda and Yamaha 3000w generators.

The Yamaha won. I liked the 500 extra watt boost that Yamaha had, and I also liked that the Yamaha came with wheels and two big handles for moving around.

I took the Yamaha 3000 out to the desert this weekend and it worked great. The only things I would ask Yamaha.

1. Why didn't they create a spot for the gas lid to set while filling? I had to put it in my pocket because I didn't want to set it on something dirty.

2. Why did they create the handles in black? After sitting in the sun these handles got really hot, not to mention the one thats directly above the exhaust was REALLY hot.

3. Somehow some way I had about 50 tiny moths in my gas level guage. I have no idea how they got in there, but they did and this was kinda annoying to have 50+ moths flying around in there. After they died they dissapeared so I'm glad I wont have a moth graveyard up there, hopefully bigger bugs don't get up in there.

4. Is there a gas tank accessory to boost the tank size? The tank lasts a really long time when I'm doing basic stuff like lights, water pump, laptop, microwave - but as soon as I fire up the AC in the desert it's looking like a 4 hour tank.

Overall really happy with the Yamaha, and I'm glad I went with the underdog so to speak.. everyone tells me Honda's are the best, but in my opinion that only gives Yamaha more to prove. Have fun trailering, bye!

PS. I had left my trailer water heater on for my trip out to the desert, so my battery was dead when I got there... on top of that I forgot my adapter that allows my trailer to plug into a standard outlet/generator... so I was out of power with no way to connect!!!! Thankfully the Yamaha comes with a 12v outlet and alligator clips.. So I was able to charge my trailer batteries and run things in the camper until the next day when I could buy an adapter.
Try converting your unit to propane and run it from your trailer's LP tanks. No more gasoline and you can run them for quite a while on the LP!
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:52 PM   #24
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We have a winner... Today I placed an order (from Wise Equipment in Illinois) for the Yamaha 3000 SEB.

I like to think that this is one of those purchases that will "pay for itself" over time, allowing us to comfortably boondock. We'll use it extensively in July, August, and September.

I will post updates once we get a little experience using the generator.
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I've had the Honda 3000 for two years and i love it. Be sure and chain it in causde they are hot items. Can also be coverted to run on propane. Can't remember the company but check the web if interested. Good luck
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Great pick

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We have a winner... Today I placed an order (from Wise Equipment in Illinois) for the Yamaha 3000 SEB.

I like to think that this is one of those purchases that will "pay for itself" over time, allowing us to comfortably boondock. We'll use it extensively in July, August, and September.

I will post updates once we get a little experience using the generator.
You won't regret your choice. You can't go wrong with either Yamaha or Honda, buy since the Yamaha has the extra kick, it should be in the winner circle.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:24 PM   #27
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So far I have good things to say about Wise Equipment. I ordered my generator on Sunday -- no sales tax & free Fed Ex Freight shipping.

Shipping was fast -- the generator arrived last night (Tuesday)! We decided to pick it up ourselves at the Fed Ex center, rather than schedule a delivery.

I haven't even unpacked it yet, but will get it all set up this afternoon.
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