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03-29-2017, 09:16 PM
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#82
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2 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Yamhill
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Originally Posted by Roadtech
I have not tried it yet, but I have read on this forum and rv.net forum from several Champion users that they are successfully running the 3400/3500 Champions directly from the Airstream low pressure port without any additional regulator between the AS port and the generator. One person said they did have to close the propane tank shutoff valve slightly to get it to run "smoothly". I will be trying this in the next few days and will report back.
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Got my Costco 3100 dual fuel yesterday. Made up the quick disconnect hose, but can't get it to start. Runs great on the tank and regulator. How far are you opening the valve? When I open the valve all the way I hear gas flowing. Do I need to connect the large regulator?
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03-29-2017, 09:44 PM
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#83
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Edgerton
Got my Costco 3100 dual fuel yesterday. Made up the quick disconnect hose, but can't get it to start. Runs great on the tank and regulator. How far are you opening the valve? When I open the valve all the way I hear gas flowing. Do I need to connect the large regulator?
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Don't open the gas all the way. I opened mine about 2/3rds. Once it cranked it started surging. By slowly closing the valve down, a little bit at a time, I found the sweet spot where it purred like a kitten.
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03-30-2017, 05:30 AM
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#84
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 702
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I had a 20 foot propane hose made up with quick connects on both ends. After reading Mojoe's experience having to close down the tank valve, I had the bright idea of adding a valve (same connection size as the hose) in the hose about 2 feet from one end, so I could adjust it at the generator and not have to go to the tank valve. That was a mistake. I think there was too much pressure drop across the valve. The engine ran smooth but noticeably quieter than it does with the tank and Champion regulator. I took that to mean it was somewhat fuel starved and running at lower hp. I removed the valve and it runs great now by adjusting the tank valve.
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03-30-2017, 08:00 PM
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#85
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2 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Yamhill
, Oregon
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 75
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So here are pictures of how I plumbed mine up today.
Unscrewed the first high pressure regulator and tank connection from the second regulator. Bought two quick connect sets. First female connector along with a 1/8"x1/4" FxM to attach QC to the regulator. I replaced the cheap 1/4" valve and QC from airstream with a new one from the propane supplier. They also made up the 3/8" hose with 1/4" male QC's for me. Works perfect. No messing with the valve just connect, open the valve and crank it up.
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05-02-2017, 08:25 PM
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#86
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Rob, Very nice. If I were going to run off the quick disconnect port that is exactly what I would do. I decided to run my generator off a propane tank so I built a high pressure 15' extension hose with an LP tank female connection on the bottle side and a LP tank male bottle connector that connects to the high pressure hose supplied with the generator.
I also tested my Champion 100263 Dual fuel inverter generator with my 15000 BTU Airstream AC tonight. It ran at a slightly higher RPM than with my 11500 BTU Casita AC at near idle. This also increased the sound level to 70 DB near the side of the pickup truck bed with the generator running the AC and refrigerator. The DBs dropped to 60 to 65 DB under the awning (also picking up the AC noise) and 55 DB at about 25'. The surrounding noise level was about 50 DB so again after about 30' the generator sound begins to be overtaken by other noises. I think these sound levels agree with what others have reported testing this model generator with an Airstream.
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05-12-2017, 07:19 AM
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#87
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
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Join Date: May 2016
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This just posted. A review of the 3100. Interesting.
https://youtu.be/00fkBB3IZrU
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05-13-2017, 05:38 AM
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#88
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCStreamer
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I have the 3500 watt dual fuel and love it. Pretty much the same experience as the video describes except more power and having the dual fuel allows me to not carry gasoline. The 3500 can be paralleled if required. One of the primary purchase decisions was having a generator that fit under my locking bed cover. The price was also right. Honda and Yamaha make great gensets but I am completely happy with my Champion.
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05-13-2017, 08:47 AM
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ObviouslyKnot
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KAILUA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMiles
Champion 100263 3400 Watt vs 100264 3500 Watt
http://www.championpowerequipment.co...2Finverters%2F
Only difference I see is that the 3400 Watt weighs less than 1 lb. more. Same horsepower engine and every other specification.
The 3100 specs are quite different. Smaller engine, longer runtime and 1.1 lb heavier.
http://www.championpowerequipment.co...2Finverters%2F
I chose the 3400 because I could see the horsepower difference from the 3100 in the specs and felt 10% more wattage was significant. I believe the 3100 says it will run a 13,500 BTU A/C versus the 3400 saying it will run a 15,000 BTU.
I chose to save money with the 3400 versus the 3500 because I saw the same engine size and they both say they will run a 15,000 BTU A/C.
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On the Champion website FAQ or maybe in an email with Champion, I was told the Retailer asked for the 3500 version to be relabeled as a 3400w. They said not uncommon, so customers will be impressed and not try to overload as much?
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05-13-2017, 09:04 AM
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#90
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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The 3500 and the 3400 are essentially the same units. Camping World gets them labeled as 3500's. That's where I got mine but I caught it on a great sale for a grand with the free shipping.
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06-13-2017, 01:25 PM
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#91
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Edgerton
So here are pictures of how I plumbed mine up today.
Unscrewed the first high pressure regulator and tank connection from the second regulator. Bought two quick connect sets. First female connector along with a 1/8"x1/4" FxM to attach QC to the regulator. I replaced the cheap 1/4" valve and QC from airstream with a new one from the propane supplier. They also made up the 3/8" hose with 1/4" male QC's for me. Works perfect. No messing with the valve just connect, open the valve and crank it up.
Attachment 282436Attachment 282437
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Where did you purchase the parts? I've been to three propane suppliers to no avail. I would like to make the same set up for my Champion. Already have the hose and male quick connects.
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06-13-2017, 02:37 PM
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#92
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Edgerton
So here are pictures of how I plumbed mine up today.
Unscrewed the first high pressure regulator and tank connection from the second regulator. Bought two quick connect sets. First female connector along with a 1/8"x1/4" FxM to attach QC to the regulator. I replaced the cheap 1/4" valve and QC from airstream with a new one from the propane supplier. They also made up the 3/8" hose with 1/4" male QC's for me. Works perfect. No messing with the valve just connect, open the valve and crank it up.
Attachment 282436Attachment 282437
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Where did you purchase the parts? I've been to three propane suppliers to no avail. I would like to make the same set up for my Champion. Already have the hose and male quick connects.
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06-14-2017, 11:14 AM
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#93
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2 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
Yamhill
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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I went to BlueStar Propane who is a local commercial/residential supplier. The made up the hose and ha the male/female connectors and the new valve. You can also find the fittings on Amazon.
Any reputable bulk propane vendor who sells appliances will have the fittings.
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06-14-2017, 01:53 PM
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#94
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3 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Oxford Mills
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Not powering my 15k AC unit ?
My duel fuel unit is not powering my 26U 's AC unit ? Tried with propane and it set the red light off on the generator, and sent code E7 to the Dometic.
Put gas in it for the first time to get the extra power and the generator keeps red lighting , but the E7 code is gone. Nothing else is on in the AS.
Does it make a difference in I plug in from the front outlet or the rear side ?
Suggestions welcomed .
It did work in a dry run in my lane way when the temp was mid 70's ran the AC for an hour on propane , sitting in Dovet DE today at 81 but almost 💯 humidity.......
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06-14-2017, 03:35 PM
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#95
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Edgerton
I went to BlueStar Propane who is a local commercial/residential supplier. The made up the hose and ha the male/female connectors and the new valve. You can also find the fittings on Amazon.
Any reputable bulk propane vendor who sells appliances will have the fittings.
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I've been to four major bulk propane vendors and they all look at me like I have 3 heads. All I need is the adapter and the quick connect you used on the generator regulator. I already have the 20 ft. hose with the male quick connects on each end.
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06-14-2017, 03:55 PM
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#96
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoe7009
I've been to four major bulk propane vendors and they all look at me like I have 3 heads. All I need is the adapter and the quick connect you used on the generator regulator. I already have the 20 ft. hose with the male quick connects on each end.
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Maybe it's a Florida thing. I couldn't find anyone around here in Jupiter to help either. "It's for an RV? Sorry, I can't even talk to you."
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06-14-2017, 05:39 PM
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#97
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4 Rivet Member
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Green Cove Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaLevel
Maybe it's a Florida thing. I couldn't find anyone around here in Jupiter to help either. "It's for an RV? Sorry, I can't even talk to you."
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It's North Carolina too!
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06-15-2017, 05:48 AM
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#98
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ObviouslyKnot
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Google MB STURGIS fittings and/or shop at etrailer.com for 1/4 inch lpg fittings.
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06-15-2017, 01:54 PM
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#99
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
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I used JME Ellsworth for propane hoses and propane quick connects.
You can use flare fittings or NPT fittings with pipe dope for propane plumbing.
http://www.jmesales.com/Default.aspx
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11-01-2017, 09:10 AM
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#100
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1 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
McDonough
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Champion Generator Model 100263 VS 100264
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazycanucks
The 3400/3500 decal difference is more likely part of an agreement with the retailer(s) / mfg to have an exclusive product and not be as easily price compared ( because we consumers can't tell the difference)
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Crazycanucks is correct, and you can read it if you go to the Model #100263
3400-Watt Dual Fuel Inverter Q&A. FYI, I couldn't copy/paste it to post here.
https://www.championpowerequipment.c...fuel-inverter/
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