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edglenn · 11-20-2011, 09:48 AM

This is all important information, and I appreciate it.
I will examine the rear frame assembly carefully before "ass-uming" it can be done.
My instinct is that an additional 50lbs at close proximity to the rear cargo hatch shouldn't be impossible. How the bumper assembly is fastened to the frame is another issue.
Also, I already removed 40 lbs by relocating the group 27 battery from the cargo area. This should help.
I didn't know the waste tanks should be dumped before travel!

**DKB_SATX** · 11-20-2011, 10:25 AM

Back to the original topic... anyone considering getting one or two of these Champion generators from Costco should move quickly. I noticed yesterday at Costco that the price label on the rack for these generators had an asterisk in the upper-right corner, which is Costco code for an item they're selling down and won't restock. Sometimes when this happens it's being replaced with an updated SKU, but often they're just discontinuing it.

Diesel1 · 11-20-2011, 11:16 AM

I'm as contrary as anyone, and mostly have to prove to myself that a thing is impossable before I accept it. I am also a certified welder and fabricater by trade. That being said in my opinion the amount of fabricating nessisary to stiffen the rear bumper in order to hold any additional weight is not worth the time & effort. Adios, John

r carl · 11-21-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel1

I'm as contrary as anyone, and mostly have to prove to myself that a thing is impossable before I accept it. I am also a certified welder and fabricater by trade. That being said in my opinion the amount of fabricating nessisary to stiffen the rear bumper in order to hold any additional weight is not worth the time & effort. Adios, John

Welding a 4x4x1/16 tube to the ends of the 6' I beam frame is a piece of cake for a welder John, weld a 3/8 plate to the ends of the I beam and then weld the tube to the plate. Thats enough for 100# of weight hanging behind the bumper.

ROBERT CROSS · 11-21-2011, 12:30 PM

But I/we ask why?

So many easier, safer and more secure ways to transport.
Plus it adds nothing to the aesthetics.

Bob

r carl · 11-21-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

But I/we ask why?

So many easier, safer and more secure ways to transport.
Plus it adds nothing to the aesthetics.

Bob

Some people haul their firewood in a basket off the rear bumper because of the bugs and spiders.

ROBERT CROSS · 11-21-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by r carl

Some people haul their firewood in a basket off the rear bumper because of the bugs and spiders.

We prefer to carry just the bugs and spiders..DEC won't allow foreign firewood.

Bob

edglenn · 11-21-2011, 07:04 PM

Well !!!......I certainly unleashed a "poop-storm" with the rear bumper mount issue, didn't I ?

TBRich · 11-21-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by edglenn

Well !!!......I certainly unleashed a "poop-storm" with the rear bumper mount issue, didn't I ?

Yup...one of several hot-button topics here on the Forums!

Mr & Mrs S · 11-21-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by edglenn

Well !!!......I certainly unleashed a "poop-storm" with the rear bumper mount issue, didn't I ?

Hmm seems I remember someone warning you

ROBERT CROSS · 11-22-2011, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by edglenn

Well !!!......I certainly unleashed a "poop-storm" with the rear bumper mount issue, didn't I ?

Fun.....WOW!!

Bob

edglenn · 11-22-2011, 06:25 AM

The funny thing is that I agree with everyone about NOT mounting the genny to the rear bumper!!!
From aethstetics, to safety reasons.
The catch is, I have to use electric to power my coffee makers, and the battery bank is only good for an hour capacity, max.
By the way, my grand opening is scheduled for next week!!! Pics to follow.
www.aerojava.us
So the rub is; I have to connect a generator at site (No power in lot). There's no other place to mount one! The front tongue is out, because of the propane tanks. Can't store it in the TV because of the shell and tailgate, and it's too heavy to lift out when hooked up. Plus, it's NOT SAFE to store enclosed, especially when it's still hot.
Same goes for stowing inside the AS. Not safe with gasoline fumes and a furnace!!!
Last resort (too late this winter), which might happen next Spring, is a new cargo hold on the curb side, where I have the battery bank (batteries will move to the rear). Framing, plumbing, and electrical nightmare, since that's where the breaker panel and inverter control assembly was installed.
Someone suggested Litium-Ion's from a Toyota Prius. Mount where the spare tire should go (guess where that has to move to?).
The fact is, back to Square One: Where the He[[ does the genny go?!?
On the back bumper, of course!

dznf0g · 11-22-2011, 06:38 AM

Lots of folks run them in the back of the truck, with plenty of ventilation, of course. Mount and lock it permanently there. I'd prefer that over the bumper idea.

ROBERT CROSS · 11-22-2011, 06:44 AM

Ed,

Just read your Registry entry....very KOOL!!

Is the Champion the only genset your planning to use?
That's quite an AC load thru your inverters.

Bob

edglenn · 11-22-2011, 07:13 AM

Bob,
It's maxed out!!
(2) 1600 watt gen's running (2) 1550 watt coffee maker(s). 10 guage wire to reduce line loss. Shared neutral, but not ganged together. There's no 85% loss factor on generators, it's a true 1600 watts, 2,000 watt surge.
Intelli-power operates only off shore power to maintain the batteries.
All cabin power off the dual batteries and 2,000 watt inverter (variable load, I can get a full day's use).
Propane for heat and hot water, etc.
So, I run entirely off battery power, except the coffee maker(s), which run off the genny's. Not a watt to spare!!!
Can't put the genny's in the TV bed, because the drive-through window is at the front left window, right by the truck. Must have the genny at right rear, away from customers.

ROBERT CROSS · 11-22-2011, 07:35 AM

Ed,

Have I jumped to a conclusion here....
You are not on shore power when serving on site?
And you will be using/mounting 2 gen's?
Your dilemma is becomming clearer.

Bob

Airtandem · 11-22-2011, 07:47 AM

JC answered the ? as to the location for the en when they put a shore mount outlet on the FRONT of the newer models.

Zeppelinium · 11-22-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by edglenn

...Intelli-power operates only off shore power to maintain the batteries...

Nope. Only if you have an isolated 115V circuit that isn't fed by the generators.

Zep

edglenn · 11-22-2011, 09:33 AM

Yep, that's how it works. The 4 circuit breaker panel determines what gets AC power. Breaker feeding Intelli-power is off when not connected to shore (manual at this time, AC contactor/relay soon), and is switched on for recharge. Batteries, Intelli-power, and inverters are all on seperate control switches. It's a balancing act!
When on most sites, there is no AC available. Many locations will be the same; Nuclear Museum of Science & Technology, Twinkle Light parade, Luminaria Tour, Balloon Fiesta, Farmer's Market, etc.