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Old 11-19-2011, 06:07 AM   #15
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He used the original 15ga 4x4 square tube bumper that is paper thin to bolt all that crap to. Look on the bumper where it was welded to the frame, there is 2 holes. If he would have cut off the original bumper and used 4x4 3/16 wall tube it would of worked. He was just smart enuff to get himself in a lot of trouble.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:34 AM   #16
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I offer this input. I am guilty of the same mistake in the picture. I was hunting in Colorado and had a fifth wheel at the time. I needed a way to haul an ATV with me.

I simply U-Bolted a receiver hitch to the stock rear bumper of the trailer, loaded a mid-sized ATV on a 5x8 small utility trailer and took off from Arkansas to Colorado. I made it to Colby, KS where I stopped to eat and refuel. We walked around the rig, and as part of the “safety check” kicked the rear bumper of the fifth wheel witch almost fell off the trailer.

As mentioned previously, the light gauge tubing had torn away from the frame rails at the welds and was about to fall off. Luckily, Colby is a farming town and a kind hearted welding shop welded a section of heavy walled tubing back in place and off we went.

As to bolting something to the bumper of an Airstream, SOB trailers in the above stories are a “body on frame” design. The frame is intended to provide all the strength The walls and floor simply sit on the frame. The frame is heavy enough to tolerate additional loads.

An Airstream is entirely different. The frame is lighter and the “bubble” is intended to carry much of the load. The tanks in modern trailers are below the floor, and over the axels to let their weight ride in supports right above the axel. Not the skins.

I am a fan of the rear bath, I like the room. But look around. They take very special care and feeding to remain road worthy.

Some light loads like bicycles seem work, at least for a while. But, no equipment racks of any kind on the back of my AS.

Best of luck with any choice one may make,
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:17 AM   #17
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That is a white box trailer. Their frame actually supports the trailer whereas the Airstream monocoque type of shell construction helps the frame to support the complete structure.
I wouldn't add any weight at the rear of an Airstream.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:44 AM   #18
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Why not just get a good container and carry it in the AS or TV?

ActionPacker Werks 'fer us. No smell, no worry.

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Old 11-19-2011, 11:05 AM   #19
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Why not just get a good container and carry it in the AS or TV?

ActionPacker Werks 'fer us. No smell, no worry.

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And it wont disappear off your bumper.
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Old 11-19-2011, 11:40 AM   #20
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I say go ahead and mount it on the bumper. A 5 gallon gas can next to it would be cool. We need to keep this economy going somehow. Sal.
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:48 AM   #21
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This is all important information, and I appreciate it.
I will examine the rear frame assembly carefully before "ass-uming" it can be done.
My instinct is that an additional 50lbs at close proximity to the rear cargo hatch shouldn't be impossible. How the bumper assembly is fastened to the frame is another issue.
Also, I already removed 40 lbs by relocating the group 27 battery from the cargo area. This should help.
I didn't know the waste tanks should be dumped before travel!
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I'm as contrary as anyone, and mostly have to prove to myself that a thing is impossable before I accept it. I am also a certified welder and fabricater by trade. That being said in my opinion the amount of fabricating nessisary to stiffen the rear bumper in order to hold any additional weight is not worth the time & effort. Adios, John
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I'm as contrary as anyone, and mostly have to prove to myself that a thing is impossable before I accept it. I am also a certified welder and fabricater by trade. That being said in my opinion the amount of fabricating nessisary to stiffen the rear bumper in order to hold any additional weight is not worth the time & effort. Adios, John
Welding a 4x4x1/16 tube to the ends of the 6' I beam frame is a piece of cake for a welder John, weld a 3/8 plate to the ends of the I beam and then weld the tube to the plate. Thats enough for 100# of weight hanging behind the bumper.
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But I/we ask why?

So many easier, safer and more secure ways to transport.
Plus it adds nothing to the aesthetics.

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But I/we ask why?

So many easier, safer and more secure ways to transport.
Plus it adds nothing to the aesthetics.

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Some people haul their firewood in a basket off the rear bumper because of the bugs and spiders.
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Some people haul their firewood in a basket off the rear bumper because of the bugs and spiders.
We prefer to carry just the bugs and spiders..DEC won't allow foreign firewood.

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Well !!!......I certainly unleashed a "poop-storm" with the rear bumper mount issue, didn't I ?
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