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Old 04-10-2013, 08:46 AM   #1
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Can you Install Solar Piecemeal?

We are new owners of a 27FB International and have a couple of potential issues with our AS.
1. In our neighborhood storage area there is no electricity so especially during the winter months, I am worried about draining the batteries empty.
2. We plan on doing a fair amount of boondocking and my wife works remotely and needs access to computer, etc.

I realize the gennie thing but would love to not have the noise even with the Honda 2000i type setups when camping.

So since I just plunked down a pile for purchasing the AS, I am not sure I really want to put another $10K down to do a similar setup as the 600W system described in an earlier post in wonderful detail.
Is it possible to put maybe 2- 100W panels on the roof, use the built-in wiring from AS and 600W inverter, use it for a season and then down the road install a 2KW Magnum inverter, controller, combiner box, etc?

Also since I have the 2- 24 Interstate batteries that came with the unit, would I need to change batteries to AGM?
I am pretty handy so I think the installation of the panels, I can handle although electrical is not my forte. I also live in Eugene so AM Solar is a mile or 2 away.


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Old 04-10-2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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The solar system for the AS will consist of two things, the panels and a charge controller plus the wiring. If you can find space with minimum shade on your roof for the two 100 watt panels you mention, and can mount them you probably will have all the power you really need for most all excursions, now or in the future. No combiner box is necessary, just parallel the positive and negative wires from the panels and get it to the inside (don't know what AS prewire consists of). At the end of the run, where it is convenient, put the charge controller. BTW, I like Xantrex controllers, inexpensive and reliable. Their C 35 or C 40 will work fine. Your existing batteries, if in good condition, will also work fine. No need to go to an expensive AGM battery. Ultimately down the road, consider two 6 volt golf cart batteries in series for your battery replacement. That is the most cost effective storage system you can find for RV's. There is nothing magic about AGM batteries other than their breathtaking cost, unless you want to mount them inside with no venting. If your trailer has the front tongue mounted battery box, you will need to make it deeper to put the golf cart batteries in, or raise the lid up an inch or two.

I can see no real reason for a 2 kW inverter in your rig, ever. Well, maybe if you want to run a big microwave. A small inverter will do most loads such as laptop computers and accessories, Television etc.

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Old 04-10-2013, 10:41 AM   #3
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Two 100W panels and a good controller should do a good job for you. Never forget, an acre pf panels will do you no good if you don't have the battery capacity to store the juice.
Two 6v golf cart batteries are a good choice. Those and your 100 watters should get you way down the road. Just be sure your controller is rated for that, it most likely is.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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If you decide to build up your solar system incrementally be sure to size everything to the end state (combiner, charger, wiring, etc.). The factory pre-wiring gage is too small for your proposed system. I believe it was sized for an 80 watt system (maybe 100 watts) so make sure you size everything to your final 600 watt system.

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Just a silly question. While boondocking, using solar for power, how will you connect the computer to the internet so your wife can work remote? Or is it that she will do the work on the computer and then drive in so she can connect?
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:14 PM   #6
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Wow! Are you ever lucky. Pop into AM Solar. They have fantastic stuff and are a pleasure to work with. They will be able to guide you through the process of power independence which greatly enhances the Airstream experience not only during the camping portion but also the storage issues. You will save the grief of rework by following their guidance on the best kit for you now and for expanding in the future. The addition of solar power to my Signature ( from Can Am RV) and my son's addition of Solar (a kit from AM Solar) has been an extremely positive experience.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:37 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Mike Steele View Post

Just a silly question. While boondocking, using solar for power, how will you connect the computer to the internet so your wife can work remote? Or is it that she will do the work on the computer and then drive in so she can connect?
Yes, it is really about doing work so that when she gets connected she can forward her work. Recharge, print, etc. (while drinking her latte )
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:42 PM   #8
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Wow! Are you ever lucky. Pop into AM Solar. They have fantastic stuff and are a pleasure to work with.
I have one of their systems on my roof (talk to Lewster if you need more advice or installation), and couldn't be more pleased. BUT get some advice in advance, so you make sure you install the infrastructure NOW that you might need LATER ... tearing it out in the future just to replace e.g. wiring with a heavier gauge or a controller will make you angry. This is clearly one of those places where you want to plan three times, measure twice, and cut only once!
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:04 PM   #9
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:38 PM   #10
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There is a great solar sytem in the classified adds of airforums. (450 watts)
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Mike, we're just up the road from you. I put a Zamp 150 watt panel, with 30 amp controller on our AS earlier this year. On our annual trip to Death Valley and vicinity, I only used the generator once, and that was not really necessary. Most days, the batteries are fully topped off by noon or so. I think if I invested in some better batteries (that I hadn't allowed to run down), it would have even better performance. I am thinking about some group 31 AGMs. They require a slight mode to the battery box lid, but it seems easy to do.

To be truthful, I over paid for the Zamp, as I purchased from our dealer. I did however negotiate the price down to less than 50% of what was being asked. My only concern about doing it myself was getting on top of the trailer without leaving dimples in the aluminum to document my adventure.

On the trip to the desert, I met a number of folks with solar expertise, including some who live completely off grid at their permanent residences. The main thing I learned is that most of the solar panels that are being sold now, have the same warranty as the Bosch panels that Zamp uses. I checked out Solar Blvd on the internet, it looks like you pay about $3.00 per watt for the panels. That's a lot less than what dealers are asking. I didn't check the cost of the controllers, but I suspect that it is less as well.

If you want, send me a note offline, and I will give you the details.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:39 PM   #12
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AM Solar - they were great. While in a 5th wheel we set up a 400W system with six Trojan 6 volt batteries. We lived off grid for months at a time with no lack of power (no microwave of course), tv, computer, lights, heater fan, etc. The battery bank capacity is important. You should do an amp hour usage estimate. There are several good websites that discuss doing an estimate. I agree you need to know your end point design.

AM Solar's website educated me to the point were I was able to install the entire system, panels, controller, monitor, batteries, etc the whole system. They were eager to help anytime. Good Folks.

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