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Old 03-02-2016, 04:37 PM   #1
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Can I power my 25FB with a single eu2000is

I am about to purchase a single Honda eu2000is and would like to plug it directly into my generator plug on the front of my trailer. I have 30amp service. I won't run the AC and will be careful to have everything else off if I run the microwave. I was reading up on Generator ground bonding and I am not clear on whether I need to do something to make this method work for me or if this is required only for running 2 generators. I have the automatic transfer switch and have hardwired a Progressive industries surge protector before the transfer switch. If I make a plug to go from the generator duplex receptacle to the generator input of the trailer will that work or do I have to do something else?
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:52 PM   #2
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Get the Companion instead of the straight 2000is. It already has a 30 amp connection, and you will only need the commercial to RV adapter. Then, if you decide later you want to get a second one, you can get the 2000is, and parallel it to run the a/c.
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You don't need the 30 amp connection just use an adapter and you got 15 amp, enjoy your honda....
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Get the Companion instead of the straight 2000is. It already has a 30 amp connection, and you will only need the commercial to RV adapter. Then, if you decide later you want to get a second one, you can get the 2000is, and parallel it.
For some reason Honda does nor sell the companion here in Canada but says you can parallel the regular Eu2000i. Maybe has to do with slightly different electrical codes here?
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For some reason Honda does nor sell the companion here in Canada but says you can parallel the regular Eu2000i. Maybe has to do with slightly different electrical codes here?
It may. I know Canadian Airstreams are wired slightly differently. I was suggesting it because the "official" Honda parallel kit is significantly more $$$ than the simple cable kit to use the companion with a 2000is.
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I am about to purchase a single Honda eu2000is and would like to plug it directly into my generator plug on the front of my trailer. I have 30amp service. I won't run the AC and will be careful to have everything else off if I run the microwave. I was reading up on Generator ground bonding and I am not clear on whether I need to do something to make this method work for me or if this is required only for running 2 generators. I have the automatic transfer switch and have hardwired a Progressive industries surge protector before the transfer switch. If I make a plug to go from the generator duplex receptacle to the generator input of the trailer will that work or do I have to do something else?
Per the NEC, any distinct AC power source requires a single neutral to ground (N-G) bond in the system. This bond is already in place in a residential or RV park electrical system, in any quality inverter/charger that has an internal transfer switching system, but NOT in a portable generator. The simplest way to provide the N-G bond is to use a 20 amp plug from a big box or hardware store, connect a jumper from the neutral lug to the ground lug and simple plug it in to the generator's available 120VAC 15 or 20 amp receptical.

You should also provide a solid ground connection from the generator's frame to the earth, as in a grounding rod or connection to an existing copper water pipe, but that is another topic.
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Per the NEC, any distinct AC power source requires a single neutral to ground (N-G) bond in the system. This bond is already in place in a residential or RV park electrical system, in any quality inverter/charger that has an internal transfer switching system, but NOT in a portable generator. The simplest way to provide the N-G bond is to use a 20 amp plug from a big box or hardware store, connect a jumper from the neutral lug to the ground lug and simple plug it in to the generator's available 120VAC 15 or 20 amp receptical.

You should also provide a solid ground connection from the generator's frame to the earth, as in a grounding rod or connection to an existing copper water pipe, but that is another topic.
The 2000 series, and probably all the Hondas, have a screw-down connection for a ground wire. It is designated by the arrow/squiggly line icon signifying a ground.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:14 AM   #8
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Per the NEC, any distinct AC power source requires a single neutral to ground (N-G) bond in the system. This bond is already in place in a residential or RV park electrical system, in any quality inverter/charger that has an internal transfer switching system, but NOT in a portable generator. The simplest way to provide the N-G bond is to use a 20 amp plug from a big box or hardware store, connect a jumper from the neutral lug to the ground lug and simple plug it in to the generator's available 120VAC 15 or 20 amp receptical.

You should also provide a solid ground connection from the generator's frame to the earth, as in a grounding rod or connection to an existing copper water pipe, but that is another topic.
Thanks Lewster, I already have a 30A-125V female plug to connect to the trailer and a heavy duty moulded 20A plug and 10' cord (removed from an new air compressor) that I was planning on using. Will it still work the same way if I made the bond in the 30A plug? The 30A plug has the ability to have 2 wires under each screw plate for a secure contact. That leaves me the extra outlet on the Honda eu2000i for something else or is it only possible to do the bond at the generator outlet directly.
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Progressive Industries sells a generator bonding plug if you are uncomfortable making one yourself. You can make one much cheaper than this yourself, but this takes the guesswork out of it: http://www.progressiveindustries.net...tor-plug/c1mwy
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As to your original question: Your 2000i will cheerfully power everything in your trailer without breaking much of a sweat. However, do not plan on running the microwave while using your hair dryer...

While rated at 2000 watts, it actually delivers 1600 watts continuously which is a skosh less than 14 amps..

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Progressive Industries sells a generator bonding plug if you are uncomfortable making one yourself. You can make one much cheaper than this yourself, but this takes the guesswork out of it: http://www.progressiveindustries.net...tor-plug/c1mwy
Thank you. I can make one easily but my latest question is; Is it best to have it bonded right at the generator (with that bonded plug) or can l bond it - in the cord to the trailer, I am making up. Since no one seems to have done it that way I thought I would verify so I don't have any problems with this new setup for me. I know the plug right on the generator is easiest but if I can have an extra outlet available on the generator it could be handy.
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Or you can just buy the Industrial EU2000 that has a ground fault receptacles.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:09 AM   #13
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So are we saying that in order to use an inverter generator we NEED to use this bonded plug, if we are plugging directly into the trailer? I've never heard of this before. I always just plug in without one.
What could happen? Not sure if I understand
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