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Old 08-31-2010, 01:17 PM   #1
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Breaker, Breaker!!

My GFIC 20 amp breaker is tripping and won't stay on. I've checked the outside plug and unplugged everything inside the trailer. I still have power to the AC and microwave from the other 2 breakers just not the refer, bath and kitchen receptacles. I replaced the breaker with a new G.E. breaker with GFIC to no avail. It would seem to me like I must have a short in that line. Any thoughts? We will be in Hondo, Texas in 3 weeks and wondered if anyone has any experience with the Airstream dealer in San Antonio?
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:47 PM   #2
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The usual cause is a short between neutral and ground. Best way to troubleshoot is to disconnect and lock out shore power and any inverter or generator you may have, then use an ohmmeter to measure resistance between neutral and ground for the 20A circuit. You can isolate it by disconnecting the neutral at various points in the wiring loop around the trailer. It's a nuisance to do but there's no better way.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:04 PM   #3
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i'd also check for moisture in the outside outlet. prop it open or hair dryer to dry it out. the fridge outlet can do that too but i think it is on a different breaker. i forget which breaker the converter is on but you can hit the cutoff switch to test that.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:20 AM   #4
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Ricky, you may be right about the outside outlet as it was a little bit wet after the rainstorm we had. I tried to take the plate off the kitchen receptacle thinking it was the culprit and found I couldn't get the whole "box" out of the hole in the wall. So just for fun I popped the breaker on and it stayed on and has worked all night. So it was either the wet outside receptacle or pulling on the kitchen receptacle fixed the problem. Thanks for the troubleshooting advice Jammer I'll use that in the future.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:24 AM   #5
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By the way does anyone know how to get the receptacle box out of the wall???
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:27 PM   #6
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i'm glad it is working. i read about the moisture issue in a thread here :-)
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:56 AM   #7
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Gfci

I have recently had a similar problem. When using an inverter, a 2000watt unit to supply power...the GFCI breaker trips...it seem to be connected with heat around the breaker box as if i circulate air to cool area it does not trip breaker...any thoughts???

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gfci again

what are the pros and cons of replacing the gfci breaker with just a standard breaker....it can be done...???
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I just saw in Consumer Reports that there has been a significant recall of circuit breakers. Big brand types....check you home and Airstream.
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what are the pros and cons of replacing the gfci breaker with just a standard breaker....it can be done...???

hmm,

pros - it's less expensive by $30, more or less.

cons - possible electrocution, and possible permanent injuries, or death.

I think I'd spend the $$.


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Not to hijack but I have a question. If I put a 110 adapter on my 30 amp RV plug it will always trip a 110 GFI shore power outlet. Even with everything off in the trailer. Is this normal?
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electrocution is possible anytime you mess with electricty,...a GFCI is a government mandated device to keep you from doing what a prudent person woould not do in the first place....
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A GFI circuit is an assumptive form of protection.

Circuitry in the GFI device constantly measures current flowing in both the hot and neutral wires of an AC circuit.

If there is less current flowing on the neutral wire, the GFI device assumes something other than what is suppose to be using the electricity is shorting the missing amount of current to ground and breaks the circuit. In theory the unknown transporter of electricity is you.

The case above is not so sinister; the carrier of the missing electrons was simply water (or more correctly, the minerals in the water) in the affected power outlet.

Removing a GFI device solves a pain the butt when it is not you getting shocked.
But, might be a pain the butt when you are the one causing the short….
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Ventport, this doesn't sound normal to me. I'd check this with a different adapter to see if the first adapter is defective. If the second one does the same thing, I'd worry about something wrong in the wiring in your trailer or home outlet.
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