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Old 04-14-2017, 01:10 PM   #15
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The newer Penguins come with a good hard start, but some find they can start on a 2k genny, others not. The Easy Start is a sure thing for a 2k genny.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:16 PM   #16
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Westinghouse builds a good looking gentleman, 2400. Lightweight and ample output. It is and inverter/converter to protect your electronics. The price is great, do some looking.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:24 PM   #17
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I have used Honda 2000 in altitude (Colorado) with propane, nonissue. Works fine. I agree with Theil, it's derated by 2-3% max on propane. Natural gas is where you see a big derate.
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:28 PM   #18
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I would have 2 Honda 2000 or one Honda 3000. I have two air conditioners so I run 2 Honda 3000. I built a ramp to load them in my pickup. Works wonderful.
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Old 04-14-2017, 03:56 PM   #19
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The 200 watt Honda is a light weight generator , these weren't built to run a 15500 but ac 8 hrs a day....it will be short lived....
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Old 04-14-2017, 05:17 PM   #20
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The 200 watt Honda is a light weight generator , these weren't built to run a 15500 but ac 8 hrs a day....it will be short lived....
Running a 15K A/C unit is not the problem.......STARTING IS and the Easy Start alleviates this issue completely.

Typical full load amps of a Dometic 15K BTU RV roof A/C unit is in the 14-16 amp range.....well within the stated operational characteristic of either a Honda or Yamaha 2000 watt generator.

The Easy Start reduces the transient load of compressor initiation to well under 20 amps (more in the 16-18 amp range), which is also well within the initial load capacities of these units.

I really don't see how using a properly rated generator within it's stated operating limits will negatively effect the longevity of the unit. In a year from now....we'll see if anyone has burnt them out (which I seriously doubt!).

....and by the way.......if one looks at the U Tube video that Micro Air has posted on one of the threads on this Forum, you will see that the additional a 'hard start kit' has NO EFFECT on the locked rotor amp draw of a Dometic roof A/C. Dometic already includes a hard start capacitor and PTCR in every unit they make and Matteo's video is proof that an additional hard start kit has no effect!. Check it out yourself!!
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:15 PM   #21
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I agree with Lewster, that using the 2000W for this application will not wear out the generator sooner. A generator doesn't care what the load is from, as long as it's within the operating specs, which as he mentions above this is. No different IMO if you ran enough smaller loads to equal this load.

As long as the generator is properly maintained and not run outside of spec, it will run as designed, regardless if the load is a generator or coffee pot.
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If you check with US Carburation. They will state that propane use in their propane conversions are not an issue. No derating required. I have had a Yamaha 3000 eisb for 10 years with no operational problems.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:30 AM   #23
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I agree with Lewster, that using the 2000W for this application will not wear out the generator sooner. A generator doesn't care what the load is from, as long as it's within the operating specs, which as he mentions above this is. No different IMO if you ran enough smaller loads to equal this load.

As long as the generator is properly maintained and not run outside of spec, it will run as designed, regardless if the load is a generator or coffee pot.
On a long hot day, the little 2000 ,actually 1600 , will be overworked, not mine
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:43 AM   #24
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I have a Dometic 15,000 btu a/c unit that I want to run off of a generator.
I currently use a Yamaha 3000 and it has plenty of power to spare. I am considering a Yamaha 2400 once I install the easy start in my A/c unit to save space and lessen the weight in my TV.
I understood you to say your Yamaha 3000 starts and runs the 15000BTU A/C just fine? Power to spare?
I'm asking because I'm shopping for a generator in that range. I think the Yamaha EF3000iS is rated at 2800 w. running. They also make a EF3000isB, that has a boost for a little bit for starting.
It would be good to know that a 3000 isn't limited to the 13,500 A/C.
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I have the 3000 with the boost. It works well as I mentioned on a 15,000 a/c unit plus other stuff we use in the trailer. What those other things are exactly I don't know as I don't really think about it but, I never had it shut me down.
I would not try to run the microwave and A/C at the same time while on gennie power. There are lists out there that can tell you the amp draw of each appliance you may want to use in the trailer then use the gennie accordingly.
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The above post should read that I have not tried to run both the a/c and microwave at the same time on the Yamaha 3000 w/boost generator. Usually if I'm on gennie power I'm pretty frugal with electricity anyway!
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Briggs and Stratton???

Why do I read any and all comments about the Honda and Yamaha? Seriously.

I'm in the market for ANY fine generator but, I would prefer a small one and all I see on this forum is a lovefest over Honda and Yamaha.

Aren't any others worthy? Generac? Briggs?

Any advice is welcome.

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Old 04-21-2017, 05:46 AM   #28
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I went with the Honda. I didn't test them all. I bought it online from a generator site. It's very quiet compared to other generators I hear in campgrounds. Engine noises bother me when camping. It's also very easy to handle, meaning light weight. I've had good luck with other small Honda engines. I would imagine the Yamaha, Briggs, and others are fine. I'm going with the easy start on my AC, so the 2000 is all I'll ever need. Just debating now if I want to convert to propane.
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