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billrector · 10-05-2017, 05:19 AM

This may be totally unrelated, but I was on the phone with genconnexdirect.net yesterday regarding my Honda eu-2000 generators. They mentioned that some new Honda generators where having problems where they ran find for a while and then cut out. Seems they have a problem with the connection between the spark plug and the wire. I doubt this is your problem since your's does not cut out, but you may want to check if it is a new generator.

mazoolah · 10-12-2017, 07:44 AM

Reading with interest the easy start /generator set ups . One question i have is , the cable and or adaptor from generator to trailer ,is there possible power loss there ? Would a large gage short wire Help ?

Micro-Air · 10-12-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mazoolah

Reading with interest the easy start /generator set ups . One question i have is , the cable and or adaptor from generator to trailer ,is there possible power loss there ? Would a large gage short wire Help ?

Hello Mazoolah. Yes, it always helps to make sure the power cable (shore cord) is of sufficient gauge without excessive length. Otherwise, the trailer could experience momentary voltage dips due to the resistance of the power cable itself during surges in current demand by your trailer. Since EasyStart dramatically reduces the starting surge of the compressor during its startup, this actually helps your trailer be more tolerant to a less-than-optimal power/shore cord (i.e. light gauge, too long, degraded connections, etc.)

mazoolah · 10-12-2017, 08:45 AM

Thanks for the quick answer ! So would it be worth it to make up (with the correct fittings) or buy (if anybody makes one) a short cable ?say 5-10feet? Rather than the std 25 ?

Micro-Air · 10-12-2017, 08:48 AM

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So would it be worth it to make up (with the correct fittings) or buy (if anybody makes one) a short cable ?say 5-10feet? Rather than the std 25 ?

If the existing 25' cable is the correct gauge and not in disrepair, it would likely not be worth making up a shorter cable.

mazoolah · 10-12-2017, 09:02 AM

Great , thanks !

jjabkowski · 02-02-2018, 06:58 PM

Can someone please supply a link or more information about easy start, I can not find this on the web. Want to research / purchase one..

dznf0g · 02-02-2018, 07:01 PM

https://www.microair.net/collections...-soft-starters

glcmranger · 02-03-2018, 05:45 AM

Question to Micro-Air: Have you analyzed the power performance/consumption of the new Honda EU2200i yet? If so,,,,,,,, comparison to the older model (EU 2000i)?

EZTOO · 02-03-2018, 08:24 AM

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Could you explain how you got the Easy Start installed? Was it at a dealer, a AC Heating specialist etc.? I asked my dealer about the Easy Start product and they were "turning themselves inside out"....trying to figure out what it was. Those that I spoke with had never "heard of one". Found that very odd since there is quite a few vids on YouTube explaining the tech behind the product and if necessary how a "competent DIY" person could install such.

We got ours installed at the Escanaba International Rally in 2017. There were Easystart company reps there that sold and offered installation. Maybe contacting the company might give you info on what RV shows/rallys they are planning to attend and if they will offer installation with a sale. The unit works great and only have to use 1 Honda EU2000 now!! Good luck!!

Micro-Air · 02-05-2018, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by glcmranger

Question to Micro-Air: Have you analyzed the power performance/consumption of the new Honda EU2200i yet? If so,,,,,,,, comparison to the older model (EU 2000i)?

Hi Sue. As you know, we at Micro-Air own a Honda EU2000i and have done extensive testing. We have not yet evaluated the EU2200i. Given how Honda tends to spec their generators, if it's anything like the EU2000i which we know can sustain 2000W (16.7A), the EU2200i can probabably sustain 2200W (18.3A). Other 2000W generators differ in that they specify the 2000W as the starting or surge amperage, not the "maximum" amperage like Honda does. That's the difference. We have also evaluated the new Westinghouse iGen2500; it also can sustain 2200W (18.3A), weighs only 5lbs more than the Honda EU2000i, and costs 35% less.

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We got ours installed at the Escanaba International Rally in 2017. There were Easystart company reps there that sold and offered installation. Maybe contacting the company might give you info on what RV shows/rallys they are planning to attend and if they will offer installation with a sale. The unit works great and only have to use 1 Honda EU2000 now!! Good luck!!

Hi EZTOO and thank you for your business. Those company reps you met were the Micro-Air owner and me! Micro-Air will be back in Salem in June for the next International Rally. We plan on spending more time there to do installations and will bring plenty of EasyStarts.

Roadtech · 02-05-2018, 07:34 AM

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Those company reps you met were the Micro-Air owner and me! Micro-Air will be back in Salem in June for the next International Rally. We plan on spending more time there to do installations and will bring plenty of EasyStarts.

Do you plan on being in the Southeastern U.S. any time soon?

Micro-Air · 02-05-2018, 05:29 PM

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Do you plan on being in the Southeastern U.S. any time soon?

Hi Roadtech. I am located in South Florida all the time (Pompano Beach) since I support all of our marine OEM customers along with doing design & development work. I see you are in Georgia, so if you do venture further south, I could perhaps help you out.

jjabkowski · 02-08-2018, 08:10 AM

In reading all the information on this thread, I am coming to the conclusion that gas generators are great and even smaller units can run my penguin II AC unit with easy start. My question is what propane fueled size generator will I need to run my 15000 BTU a/C at elevations from 7000 down to 1000. (I live in AZ and in matter of hours I can be at many different elevations). I would also be using the Fridge and general lighting but have never used the Microwave. It would appear on the data from the above thread that I am probably closer to a 3000 series generator due to fact using propane and the change in elevations.

Micro-Air · 02-08-2018, 09:03 AM

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In reading all the information on this thread, I am coming to the conclusion that gas generators are great and even smaller units can run my penguin II AC unit with easy start. My question is what propane fueled size generator will I need to run my 15000 BTU a/C at elevations from 7000 down to 1000. (I live in AZ and in matter of hours I can be at many different elevations). I would also be using the Fridge and general lighting but have never used the Microwave. It would appear on the data from the above thread that I am probably closer to a 3000 series generator due to fact using propane and the change in elevations.

Hello J. Welcome to the forum. There have been a number of propane vs. gasoline vs. altitude evaluations done around the forum in other topics, many involving EasyStart. The net summary that I typically tell people is that you can typically run a 15kBTU A/C with EasyStart on a Honda EU2000i up to 3000', on gasoline, without rejetting. Some people have done better than this. We've also had EasyStart customers run 13.5kBTU A/Cs on a Honda EU2000i over 6000', on gasoline, after rejetting. Some have even done better than this! All of this of course required some strict power management.

Based upon the specs of the dual-fuel generators out there, the rule of thumb is that propane typically drops the generator's output power capacity by about 10%.

Given your requirements for fueling with propane, altitude, the other appliances you wish to also run, I would highly recommend that you pursue a dual-fuel generator with at least 3000W to avoid any issues with power management.

jjabkowski · 02-08-2018, 10:30 AM

Thank you Matteo, excellent summary and info. And I ordered the Easy Start today, looking forward to the install.

Lumatic · 03-02-2018, 07:14 PM

I want to replace my oem 25 year old 13.5 K Dometic Penguin with a 15K. Sometimes I will be using my Honda eu 2000 generator(s), I have 2. It looks like from the information above with the EZ Start I will be able to use one generator instead of 2.

I am now looking for recommendations pro and con for 15K Air conditioners.
Thanks

**wulfraat** · 03-02-2018, 07:24 PM

Pro - more cold air
Con - none

The Ice Man · 03-02-2018, 09:58 PM

The Micro-Air Easy Start now seems to be heartily endorsed by JC. See page 30 of the March 2018 Blue Beret.

Bluto · 03-03-2018, 09:36 AM

Ice Man,
Glad to see the article in Blue Beret. Although, it seems that the service dept. at JC doesn't feel the same about it. I went to the service shop at JC in October of 2017 with my EastStart in hand, for them to install it for me. They refused to touch it saying that they tried to install one recently and it didn't work and that they had to end up replacing the air conditioner out of A/S's pocket.
Hopefully, they figured out what they did wrong and will now install them. I drove to JC from TX to have them install mine. I was not very happy when the tech refused to do the work.
Originally, when I told Artie (service adviser) what I wanted done via phone and email all was fine till I drove there and it was time to do the work. I still have it in the box and hope to have it installed someday.