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Old 07-26-2014, 02:33 PM   #71
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I don't generally turn on the running lights at dawn.


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Old 07-26-2014, 02:36 PM   #72
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Why would you want to see the ISS?
How many times have you seen it already?
If my running lights are preventing you from seeing it, walk on down the road a piece.
My running lights are no more preventing you from seeing the ISS than someones scare light, lantern, rope lights, tiki torches, campfire, etc.


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Old 07-26-2014, 02:46 PM   #73
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I used to turn on the running lights because I liked it, and want to. Then one night at about bed-thirty, a neighbor in the park knocked on the door and told me my lights were on.

Now if I turn them on, I make sure they are off before I go in for the evening.
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My, my!! I sure didn't see this defensiveness coming! First, astronomy hasn't been a hobby of mine for about 50 years. Yet somehow I can sympathize with someone who might want to see the sky. I guess it's more difficult than I thought.

Why would I like to see the ISS? Just amazing. I feel that it isn't any of my business why someone wants to eat a hamburger, or why they want to be a vegan.

Is viewing the ISS amazing the first time only?

The unasked implicit question is do I object to running lights. The answer is no I don't. I do know that it isn't quite the same as an auto sales lot. I didn't mention it because I didn't think it was the slightest bit interesting. I merely wanted to point out that sometimes there are special considerations and I made an example of one.
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Old 07-26-2014, 04:41 PM   #75
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The thing about special considerations is that everyone has em. The guy who wants to burn his lights and the guy who wants to look at the space station, but only one is saying that the other may not do something.

Frankly I don't care that people burn their lights or not, but I do care about liberty. It is a matter of principle.


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Old 07-27-2014, 02:46 PM   #76
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This is cool, we got a nice discussion going. I totally get the idea of having a little electro-bling on the 'Stream and agree it's less glaring than the tick-tacky tiki torches and other neon nasties. In my experience so far, most Airstreamers don't go in for that stuff. All I'm saying is, there comes a point when it's time to chill and kickback and not have a bunch of red lights glowing in the campground for no real reason other than showing off. As a North Idahoan, I care about liberty too, JM, but the tricky part happens when one person's liberty steps on another's. To me, this is sorta like smoking: Anyone should be able to smoke all they want, but not if, where and when someone else has to breath that smoke.
But I seem to be outnumbered here; sounds like I'm the only who has a problem with late night running lights so I'll shut up now. Until someone camps next to me with 'em. :-)
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I don't yet have and have never had an RV and have no experience in RV parks. That said, I'd like to re-express myself using a different venue.

Lets say I scheduled re-roofing my house and just before the work and horrid noise begins my next door neighbor gets seriously ill and doesn't sleep at night. It is really unfortunate, but I can't afford to pay the roofers to sit on their hands and my neighbor suffers. I'd wish for a different outcome but it isn't going to happen. On the other hand if I were to want to tune my unmuffled racing motorcycle (which I don't actually have) when my neighbor was ill as before, I would of course defer it or go somewhere else. That is not liberty. It is consideration. If someone asked me to turn off my running lights because it harmed their night vision or interfered with their communing with the spirit world (whatever that might mean) I'd be glad to help.

I'd be glad to drop this and I don't mean that in the spirit of “I got my last shot in, too bad about you”. I must also say that upon rereading what I wrote that I didn't like my tone. I have no excuse for that.
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This would make an interesting conversation around a campfire. So many differing views on one subject. I guess I am not sure but I get the feeling of some hostility against the people out there because they want to put their running lights on because they like it. I guess it will be OK if everybody likes it. Is that ever going to happen? I say live and let live, it is not like dumping your black tank in their driveway.
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Turning on Running lights while camping

I will agree that good neighbors can and should accommodate one another to one degree or another, and I do and will. There is a line where people complain to complain, in this regard I really don't accommodate much.

You know that guy who blocks the left lane of the interstate for fifteen miles for no reason whatsoever except that he can?

I don't go out of my way much to accommodate this guys eccentricities.
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Turning on Running lights while camping

We went to our first TCT outing last week. It was great! We used the "camperlite" in the evening, unplugged before we went in for the night. We had more people come up and ask us where we got it, and they wanted to get one for their camper. We did not hear a single complaint. I think the scare lights, and awning lights are much brighter.
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Here is Midge with her lights on. The little lamp inside is a bit bright, though.......
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No brighter than the door light or the interior lights-


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Some people will always complain about something. We try to roll with the flow. Let's face it, there are many types of people that go for Airstreams. I would venture to say that if a person has a major problem with clearance lights at night then there are probably a whole host of issues they have with fellow campers. Maybe they just need a hug.
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I must admit.....

Hi, I must admit that I was nicely asked to turn my lights off one night. I was at a Rally, in which many of us had our lights on, and my trailer's rear end was facing the potluck tables. I not only had all of my running lights flashing, but also my brake lights were flashing too. Admittedly, my lights were blinding people trying to see their food. Without any hesitation, I turned them off.
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