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Old 06-02-2006, 05:35 PM   #1
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Running lights driving me mad

I had anticipated many things presenting horrible problems that would impede me from getting my 68 Globetrotter inspected and on the road, but I never thought that my waterloo would be five stupid running lights. Everything on the trailer is up and functioning except the five (three in the front and one on each side) orange running lights. The red ones in the back work fine as does every other light, but the fronts are dead. There is a good ground and the bulbs are fine. My father and I tried everything, but because of the sealed nature of the trailer, we could not determine where the wires come from or how to axcess them. Any information would be appreciated. this is the last hurdle to get over before fun can begin!

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Old 06-02-2006, 07:25 PM   #2
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Ok, first, what inspection? Do you mean that if those lights don't work you won't get a license plate? I must say, that's pretty wild. I bet there's lot's of yard service trailers without running lights being towed by teenage boys this summer.

But really, here's your answer....Keep in mind I don't have your year or coach length, but ours are similiar and hopefully equivalent. Since ALL of the fronts are out, and you're SURE that your lights and their grounds are good then it's a single wire problem...somewhere.

Under the front of your coach should be a removable panel in the belly, not far from where the A frame has entered the skin, probably on the curbside. It should be held on with screws. Remove it. Inside you hopefully will find a spaghetti mess of wires. You are looking for GREEN wires. Green is for the running lights. Find the bigger one that comes from the A frame, it should be coming out of a bigger cable, that's your pigtail. Follow it to a wire nut and there is where the wires to your running lights split off.

I think you should have two smaller wire splitting off at this point, one for the rear and one for the front. First test: Look for a loose small green wire, that would be your problem. Connect it into the bigger green wire coming from the car and see if this solves your problem. If there are two or more small green wires already connected to the big wire, disconnect one and see what lights turn off. If none do, then that was your front wire. See if you can find damage to that wire where it rubs against the frame or touches something else. A mouse may have chewed it.

If none of this works, you will need to
A)determine that all of the lights up top are still wired together. Use a continuity tester and pull ALL of the bulbs off, then go from light to light testing continuity between the lights. If this isn't the case then you have more wiring issues. Solving this gets complicated, so let's leave it for now. OR, you could run a 12 volt source to one of the hot leads on one of the marker lights, when you have the cover off. They should all light up. Run a jumper wire from your green wire in the panel and see if they light up.
B)Run a new hot wire from the lights down to the big green wire in the belly.

I have guesses on how to run this wire, but don't know from experience how it is really done, so I'll tell you how I saw someone else did it on mine. It looks like they took the green wire down the wall on the inside, maybe they used fishtape through the hole for the wire for the marker light. Then they cut a small hole with a hole saw in the wall inside one of the dinette benches and pulled that wire out. They then drilled down thru the floor and into the belly and connected it back to the green wire. They made a cover for the hole in the wall, BTW. Luckily yours is the front marker lights. The rear would be a pain.

Maybe someone else has a better way, but that should work. BUT make sure you have A) above done first though.
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:00 PM   #3
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Here, try this threadette:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...tml#post214079


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Old 06-04-2006, 10:07 PM   #4
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Thanks for the response

Ayrstrm2 and eubank,
Thanks for your timely response. When I found out there might be a junction panel under the Globetrotter I went out to check in a driving rain storm. I was so happy to discover that it was there. Once things had dried I opened the panel and discovered that the green wire had been chewed by a furry friend. I had to blast two holes into the underbelly but I eventually found the other end of the green wire. The connection was made and I have lights all around! Now I have to patch the holes and get to the inspection station.

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Good deal! Another set of running lights fixed, thanks to this forum!

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Man, isn't that the best feeling? I'm really glad that worked out. I would make sure that it wasn't rubbing against the frame that did that. If it is, either wrap the wire with a couple of wraps of electrical tape, or get some plastic cable wrap at Home Depot or NAPA and encase the wire where it touches the frame. And put a line of caulk around the panel when you put it pack to seal it.
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Old 06-05-2006, 10:32 PM   #7
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wiring trouble too!!

Okay so you all sound like you might be able to help me out.
I am now positive that the truck is working...because all of the lights go on when the van does. BUt when I put the turn signal on all of the lights flash??
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BUt when I put the turn signal on all of the lights flash??

Porbably a wire wrong in the trailer plug.
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