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Old 08-06-2009, 06:12 PM   #15
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i was on vintage trailer supply today and was pretty sure i saw the cans there Exterior Lights

Are these round ones not the right ones?

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I spoke with Steve at Vintage Trailers today and he is seriously considering making these canisters. It appears that this type was used in model years 1969 to 1974, which is a pretty sizable number of trailers. .
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:41 PM   #16
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no, they're not.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:04 PM   #17
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Mike, Mexray is right. The guy who did the refurbishestoration (my word) on our Sovereign used light buckets from a trucker supply place. A little trimming on the buckets and they fit perfect.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:55 PM   #18
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Speaking of rusted taillights. It didn't dawn on me until I got my 71 Caravel home earlier this year what was different about the taillights. Looks like at one point in time the previous owner had the same problem with the taillights rusting out and had the entire unit replaced. I'm not sure if they are ones from a late model airstream or truck type but, they seem to fit fairly well. All the work was done from the outside because its held in place with four screws one on each corner. Seems to me I remember reading the instructions for this procedure in a maintenance manual I have. You cut the rivets from the outside by sliding a thin chisel between the light fixture frame and the side of the trailer. I had to change out over half of the screws to stainless. Whoever installed it didn't realize regular steel screws were going to rust and stain the chrome finish.

Even though they aren't the original round lights I kind of like the look of the square lens now that they are cleaned up.
This is a photo before I picked it up to bring home.

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Old 08-11-2009, 08:32 PM   #19
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I gave in...

In order to save time I decided to just go ahead and purchase the ugly LED reverse lights for my Sovereign from Inland Andy. But I found an easy solution to dress up these ugly but very effective lights. See pic. I simply gorilla glued a brand new vintage style lens over the new LED. Looks vintage but is LED bright.

I was able to salvage the canisters for both tail lights and did this mainly to retain the Fiber Optic front view capability. I'm pretty happy with the way all the tail lights look and function.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:54 PM   #20
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Thanks for the tip Mello Mike!

When I had my trailer connector rewired (to standard pin/wire configuraiton), my reverse lights still didn't light. I was told that there is power to them - but the cans are completely rusted and won't hold the bulb. So, I started looking through the lighting resources at Vintage Trailer and saw the LEDs. I haven't purchased yet - because I won't do the work until I start my stripping/polishing work - but wondered also about replacing the markers with LED's. The price seems good, but it does *add up* quickly!

Wonder why the back-up cans seem to rust before the brake lights? Seems odd. Thanks again for the tip on how to make them look vintage. Glad it doesn't significantly reduce the brightness either. Not that I'm going to be super worried when backing - since I'm hardly ever running in reverse in traffic anyway. Hardly ever ...

If anyone is still out there ... are the round rear reflectors (in the lighting bar) pretty easy to replace? I did order those and figure that they are secured with an adhesive. Hope the old ones pop off easy. What should I use to reattach - I am a big consumer of liquid nail. But I know it isn't a fix all!
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:40 PM   #21
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When I upgraded the lights on my 1971 Caravel, I installed Gorilla sealed beam tail lights on it. No can was necessary since the lights are completely sealed. Check out
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:27 PM   #22
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If anyone is still out there ... are the round rear reflectors (in the lighting bar) pretty easy to replace? I did order those and figure that they are secured with an adhesive. Hope the old ones pop off easy. What should I use to reattach - I am a big consumer of liquid nail. But I know it isn't a fix all!
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Laura,
The old ones pop out pretty easy. Even if they don't, you can break it to remove it. On one I had to use a flat bladed screwdriver to pry it out. It cracked, but who cares. I bought my reflectors from Oasis RV for like $1.50 a piece. They look great, as you can see from my earlier pic.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:35 PM   #23
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Laura,

In order to save time, I just smashed the old Grotelite reflectors with the handle of a screwdriver. What I did was drill out the rivet, which holds the aluminum reflector housing...keep the housing and the aluminum washer, which you need to add to the rivet, to hold the reflector housing to the light fixture.

The new Grote number for the reflector is 40062. You can get it at your local NAPA, and price is around $3.00 per reflector.

Here is the result of a couple hours of cleaning replacing...I removed all of the lenses and sanded the face of the fixture, in order to get the rust stains from the old light buckets off.
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Old 08-18-2009, 02:05 PM   #24
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Looks great, StingrayL82!! Did you paint the stripes on your rubrails or is that a decal that you used?
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Mike,

All of the rails, which originally had tape, were repainted by South Jersey RV. They used Ford Blue. I'm not sure that the color matches what was originally there, but it looks okay.
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:29 PM   #26
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Mello Mike is right that we are working on them. It has taken a little longer than we thought because we were hoping to come up with an "off the shelf" solution. One of the problems with all the truck cans available today is that they have an exterior flange for mounting. The cans used from 1969 to 1974 did not. They were simply screwed through their backs into the larger assembly. They do look very much like a tuna can except the interior mounting ring and the drip lip.

That mounting method is also why the depth of the can is very important. Working with one of our customers, we came up with an innovative way to create the cans again and should have something available by the end of September 2010.

Remember that on each side, one can is for an 1156 (single filament) and one is for an 1157 (two filament). Also, on the drivers side, one of the cans...I can't remember which one...has the fiber optics in it...a cool Airstream feature.
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Both tail lights used the fiber optics.

LED tail lights and backup lights are available that replace the cans.

The cans, unfortunately, were suddenly removed from the market place, by the manufacturer, many years ago.

One of the tail light LED's that's available, can still be used with the fiber optic system.

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Mello Mike is right that we are working on them. Working with one of our customers, we came up with an innovative way to create the cans again and should have something available by the end of September 2010.
Very cool, Steve. Will it be made of plastic or metal? This will be a nice, low cost alternative to the expensive LEDs.

Now, if you get the earlier Astradome (VTS-107) and the metal door latch for the late 50s/early 60s door-with-a-door (VTS-117), I would be really happy.
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