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Old 12-29-2012, 06:20 PM   #1
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Re-inventing the scare light

I've never liked the scare light, the way it beams straight out, probably annoying the crap out of other campers. I tried to put a hood on it, but that got to be too hard, so I modified the original casting to take an LED disc and built a hooded replacement from scratch. The new light is only 1/4" larger in diameter than the original scare light casting, despite the appearance in the photo.

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It's not impossible, but it is difficult, to get an LED disc to sit inside the casting right at the center of the lens, so you get some odd light rings on the ground near the Airstream, but the light output is still quite good. I haven't given up putting a hood on the original casting, but I'm leaving that experiment for another week.

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Building a hooded replacement for the scare light is doable, but I'm not sure I like the hood coming out 2-1/2". The next try will attempt a flatter section across the middle of the hood, or maybe some shrinking to bring the lip down a little. The good aspect of this replacement unit is that the light shines mostly down, there is no direct visibility of the LEDs to a person standing, and there is good illumination of the ground straight down. It's also wired so that in the dim mode only one LED is powered.

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The awning arm is a potential hazard for any light fixture that protrudes in the area of the scare light. We'll see how this one fares.

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Old 12-29-2012, 06:30 PM   #2
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I agree. The scare light is pretty useless, except for spotlighting deer perhaps.

I also agree that a flatter version might look better. The current version does have a certain steampunk look.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:35 PM   #3
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You went thru a lot of work, and it shows. Very nice. I took the easy way out, took our liitle dog's stainless steel water bowl, cut some openings in it and drilled the holes. The flange on the water bowl was a perfect fit for the light.
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Zep, you are one cool dude! (in the best appellation of that).

Silver Streak also used this light. And, then by the time of my 1983 model (and new-to-me 1990 model) had this unfortunate choice:

RV Porch Light

I might try [4] of the new motion detector LED lamps at the OEM locations for these lamps, hardwired to 12V (new TT has black accent trim)

The Smart Light

But it would never be as cool as that hood over the marine-style light fixture!!

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Old 12-29-2012, 08:14 PM   #5
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I was kind of thinking about removing the original, shining up the inside reflective background around the top 90 degrees or so, and painting the remaining reflector with flat black. Nice to dream about. Since it's never been apart, I don't even know if it's got an inside reflective surface.

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Nice work, Zep.

You've probably thought of this, but I would suggest a louvered approach as one means of reducing the distance by which the shade projects. Something like this only with larger louvers, and round, of course:

LED Mini Step Lights with Louvers, LED Louvered Path Lights, PNSI-661

While the aluminum would reflect some light it would scatter it and limit the glare.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:21 PM   #7
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Nice handiwork, guys! I had similar thoughts about the old-style porch light fitting on my 65. I installed a license plate lamp fixture instead. It points at the door where you need light anyway. It's low profile and looks good to my eye. And I can reinstall the original fitting if I choose to. There's a pic with my posted images if you are curious:

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Old 12-29-2012, 09:31 PM   #8
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I've never liked the scare light, ...or maybe some shrinking to bring the lip down a little...

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Old 12-30-2012, 10:21 AM   #9
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Take a look at posts #28 and #30 in this thread about converting fixtures to LEDs. The conversion of the over-door light makes the scare light almost redundant, is a lot easier, can easily be dim for a porch light or bright for a BBQ light, and looks natural.

I did this because I've always thought there was a better way to do the scare light. I'm going to give it one more try.

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Old 12-30-2012, 11:05 AM   #10
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You went thru a lot of work, and it shows. Very nice. I took the easy way out, took our liitle dog's stainless steel water bowl, cut some openings in it and drilled the holes. The flange on the water bowl was a perfect fit for the light.
Hi RLS,
While Zep's is the more elegant solution, I think I am more of a dog-dish technician. Have you a picture (or a link to a picture) of what the dish looked like before you took it away from the dog?
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:00 PM   #11
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RE: Scare light

Zep and All,

I have no scare light currently on my '67 Safari. I have purchased (2) from another Airforums member earlier this year and in the spring I will begin the install process. I was toying with the idea of diverting the entire light assembly so it would not shine straight out at any neighboring trailers. What I intend to do is to form an "eyelid" from aluminum from the side of the trailer to the back of the existing light housing that will slightly angle the scare fixture downward.... so the full radius of the lens will still be throwing light but the angle will cause the lamp to shine more downward than straight out from the trailer, and be less offensive to nearby neighbors. If this process works out I will post what I come up with here. I am currently working out the angle so as to fabricate the aluminum bezel and form the top eyelid to divert water from the top of the fixture. Hopefully, the top of this new fixture will only protrude 1-1/2" from the original (flat) body mounted position but will still position the light @ a downward angle to divert the light suffficiently!
Stay tuned! Ed
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:49 PM   #12
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Well, I wouldn't exactly use the word "elegant," but it will do for now.

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Can't wait to check out the light pattern tonight.
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Those are really great ideas...love the dog bowl conversion. Until now I'd never heard it was called a "scare light"...we just use it to flood the campsite with light so the kids can play after dark...quietly of course!
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:58 PM   #14
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I think the shape I really want is this one. This quickie experiment used a 2x4 with radiused edges to form a blank, then I cut two slits so I could fold it. I didn't like the overlapping edges, so I cut 22.5 wedges along the slits and folded it to 45.

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The real deal would be a shape something like this:

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The issue will be getting the corners at the fold to fit nicely. You can get a 3D print of this shape in stainless steel for about $50, but I am way too cheap for that.

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