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Old 01-14-2014, 06:47 PM   #1
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Light replacement

1987 Sovereign. Time to replace exterior running/clearance lights. Is it worth the additional cost to go LED? If so, any good sources?
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:32 PM   #2
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The prices are really coming down on complete sealed marker lights. Led4rv.com has them for 8.49ea but my wife found them a couple of days ago for 5 something but I can't remember the site sorry. Google them.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:47 PM   #3
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I just bought five of them from Vintage Trailer Supply @$8.99 each:

LED Double Bullseye
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:54 AM   #4
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I would like to convert ours to LED at some point, but at the same time it's not really a circuit I need to save electricity on, so it's not my highest priority. While I'm waiting, the price gets cheaper and cheaper.

I were just installing them or had to replace them all anyway, I'd put LEDs in.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:41 AM   #5
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LED4RV.COM is the place to go. (from personal experience) Dan understands electrical as related to LED's and stands behind what he sells. I had a question so I emailed him. I did not get an email back, I got a phone call. How many Internet stores do that?
I'm sure you could contact him with your questions before you buy.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:19 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone!
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:39 PM   #7
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A thought - going to LED is mainly to save amps. on the TT 12volt system. The running lights run off the TV 12volt system which gets it's amps from the TV alternator as you are running down the road. Why bother or spend the money?
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A thought - going to LED is mainly to save amps. on the TT 12volt system. The running lights run off the TV 12volt system which gets it's amps from the TV alternator as you are running down the road. Why bother or spend the money?
Because good ones are brighter, last longer, in the case of markers they can be had completely sealed, and in the case of brake/turn lights they are faster on/off which also makes them more attention-getting.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:22 PM   #9
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RED light in rear of trailer, Sir do you know your rear light is out?
Its just a fix it TICKET Sir dont fret. (fix it ticket's in So Cal are now $ 125.00 court cost you know.) All lites are now LED's that will last longer than me.


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Old 01-25-2014, 06:34 PM   #10
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For what it is worth, wife has been rear ended and had two neck surgeries. I was rear ended last June. Still got a messed up right shoulder. Neck/upper back got pretty good but shoulder is still giving me a fit.

Far as I am concerned I am of the persuasion if they don't notice you they are gonna hit you thusly I want all the warning I can give them on the back end.

If the jerks will hit a parked fire engine with about six emergency vehicles blasting strobes going to H&G you can get an idea of the mentality you are dealing with.

My next move is to overlay the previous owners WBCC number with brilliant yellow/green 3M conspicuity tape for both day and night attention getting. I am going LED on tail, brake/turn and back up lights as well.

Will also put about two feet of the red/white tape on the back of the AC cover.

Recently I have seen some trailer marker ( 3 high center mount) that double as stop/turn signals on one of the big food delivery trucks. Looks like 36 LEDs in them and very good at getting your attention.

As well get you and wife one of those DOT brilliant yellow/green with white reflective vests the cops are wearing now and don't get out in traffic without it ! ! ! ! ! You can also get a wide brim Boonie hat same color.

I work a fair amount of traffic at wreck scenes at night and have been lucky so far (19 years). We are in a rural area and just as soon as I see a car approaching I give them five shots with my Streamlight Stinger (runs about $100.00) or a Streamlight Strion comes with two batts and home and vehicle charger. Also get a Streamlight Survivor (runs on 4AAs for hours and hours).


Also has strobe flash capability. At about a thousand yards I give them quick flashes and the bright lights come on immediately and I know they have seen me. I also carry a four foot fiberglass cane wrapped in red/blue/white reflective to direct traffic. It can also be seen at a thousand yards as I grip it in middle and rotate it like a fan.

At night if you are broke down turn off headlights and leave flashers on. Your headlights will blind oncoming traffic and may divert a vehicle into yours.

Bottom line think, "They don't see me, they don't see me, they don't see me."
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As well get you and wife one of those DOT brilliant yellow/green with white reflective vests the cops are wearing now and don't get out in traffic without it ! ! ! ! !
Preaching to the choir. I have one of those vests in each of my vehicles, ever since a coworker was run over (hit-and-run, by the way) alongside I-20 while changing a tire.

Side note, the length on the vests is driven by ANSI/ISEA 107-2010 requirements for the total square inches of reflective material and background color; plus short vests are actually preferred by construction workers who have to wear tool belts (vest isn't in the way of the belt). The vests aren't meant to be stylish or fashionable, just highly visible. So don't expect them to be tailored like a three-piece-suit vest.

Side note on the other side, they also make other clothing that meets ANSI/ISEA 107-2010 requirements. So you might want to get a reflective T-shirt instead if you want something long enough to reach your hips.

Get some for your dog while you're at it…
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:27 AM   #12
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Protagonist, Sorry about your friend. We have had two cops killed at scenes (I wasn't at either) from jerks blasting through 10,000 CP of strobes going here in last several years.

I forgot to add when possible we (fire dept) will close road down for several hours and establish road blocks up to several miles in each direction to divert traffic around and they don't even come through our scenes and avoids lines backing up as well.

Also be extremely leary of topping a hill and seeing a wreck on defilade side. Stop and get off road way back from the scene as such conditions cause lots of wrecks especially on interstate routes.

Haven't had to do it yet but my plan from now on is pull off quickly, hit the flashers as close to the top of the hill as I can and if I have the AS hooked up I will go back to bathroom and hook up my fire dept wigwag red lights in the 12V recepticle over the sink and aim it out the back window.

We are also told our insurance won't pay off if we get hit and don't have on a DOT approved vest.

I have also seen reflective trousers (same colors) and just found out the official name of the color appears to be NEON GREEN.

I have had a policy for years going through a scene to slow down to no more than 10 MPH and have my flashers on as well and watching for all movements.

We all know from pulling our trailers we have to have a different mind set because when you hook to a AS you had better be ON YOUR GAME.

Brings to mind another warning I got from a guy I met from Canada who comes to the states and hooks up new trailers and pulls them back and delivers them all over Canada.

His advice was to never tow a trailer faster than 60 MPH as that is about as fast as you can maneuver. He said the other trailer haulers rag him on CB about going so slow and they blew past him at 70MPH for better and he has found them rolled or wrecked miles down the road. He drives about 90,000 to 115,000 miles per year and will tow with nothing less than a 1 Ton Dually.

A couple weeks ago I stopped by a dealership here and he had a 77 Sovereign on his lot and it was gone. I was interested in it and he said the guy that bought it hit the road with it the next day and rolled it and his tow vehicle as he had no experience towing heavy trailers.

One other interesting note. I changed out the dome interior light on 2007 GMC 2500HD and installed two BLUE LED panel lights. I had to solder wires together to rig two sets. Makes for a very bright internally lit cab at night and the best part is the Colors BLUE, RED OR GREEN on DO NOT destroy night vision like the white lights do. I got the panels on ebay and they have 3M sticky tape adaptor to use the GMC recepticle thusly one panel is directed left and the other right. Two of them delivered were like $5.00 and we like them very much.
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LED clearance lights as well as tail lights, are brighter in the day light than the regular incandescents are at night.

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Old 01-26-2014, 10:56 PM   #14
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We don't currently have led clearance lights or tail lights but I'm going to change them out on my current 86-32 that I am remodeling. Just like Andy said they are brighter. Also, they are cooler and in my case less demand on the electrical system and converter. A lot of us in our camping group like to run the clearance and tail lights all night while we are camping just for a fun effect. I made up a jumper with a female connector and plug it into the 7 pin connector. Then there will be no bulbs to change out anymore. They're great!

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