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Old 06-19-2012, 10:41 AM   #1
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LED Tail Light Conversion?

This is the tail light assembly I currently have:
Using this right side as an example, it has 3 wires. Green-running, black-stop and brown-r. turn.






I have purchased new sealed LED assemblies. It also has 3 wires, black-running, red-stop and white-ground.
As can be seen in the photo there are two wires running to the double filament bulb, the black and the green.
On the new light the white ground is no problem, attach it to the body.
Black to the single bulb.
Now my problem, Do I splice the origional black and green together and attach to the red from the new light to give me stop and turn light? Somehow that just does not seem right to me. I may be overthinking this.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:48 AM   #2
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You would splice the stop and turn wires together . on the older trailers as they were seperate. That would be the black and brown in this case which should go to red on the new ,lite. They likely have already been tied together in the plug in the front of the trailer

Also one of those colors should carry through to both the left and right side. That one would be the tail (dimmer lite). The other (2) should be the stop/turn
At least that is what I remember. Its been a while
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:22 PM   #3
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Rick, thanks, that is what I was thinking, but it made too much sense. Sometimes the simplest answer is the best answer. These lights are the brightest tail lights I think I have seen. No excuse for anyone not to be able to see me from behind. Picked them up from Inland. They are about an inch larger overall than the original. Going to have drill out the rivets holding in the original units and clean up all the goop packed in behind them. Should be an easy and clean install.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:54 PM   #4
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The saga continues, tried combining the wires as discused above. Everything works great, in fact too good. There is no seperation of the turn signals. Both flash no matter what direction the turn switch is moved too. Any other ideas?
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:31 AM   #5
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The saga continues, tried combining the wires as discused above. Everything works great, in fact too good. There is no seperation of the turn signals. Both flash no matter what direction the turn switch is moved too. Any other ideas?
That is what I get for trusting my memory.
I just went out and pulled the lights on my 61 which should be the same as a 64.

Left (drivers side) You will find 2 black and 2 green wires. Splice all 4 together and connect to black(running) on new light.

Single red wire for stop and turn


Right (curb) side one black and one green . splice together . connect to black (running)

1 Brown wire. Connect to red for stop turn..


Hope fully this will get it for you with out having to resort to a lot of testing to identify things. It had been 4 years since I had done this and my memory failed me.

In my case I used 7 inch school bus lites so they don't look original but they sure are easy to see compared to the old ones.

Let me know how it goes.
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Rick, thanks, I will give that a try when I get home this evening. It is so much fun having a vintage trailer.
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On my 63 led conversion, the trailer black (stop) wire is not used at all. The brake light gets its single from the blinker wires.
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Rick, IOU at least 3 beers. Your suggestion worked perfectly. I have fully functioning and bright tail lights. Next project: Interior LEDs.
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LED Tail Light Conversion?

Greetings All!

Another option for converting the Bargman 99/"Wedding-Cake" tail lights to LEDs was explored in the thread "Vintage Tail Light Blasphemy". I followed this guide when converting my '64 Overlander to LEDs in 2009. While there is some loss of brightness due to the use of the original tail light lenses, they are still much brighter both during daylight and after dark than the original fixtures. The general appearance is that of the original OEM tail lights, but the functionality is vastly improved. The only issue that I have encountered in the years since the conversion has been with a fussy ground on the left unit . . . annual cleaning and tightening of the ground on that side has kept the problem at bay while the right unit has never had to be addressed for ground issues.

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