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Old 08-31-2008, 07:21 AM   #29
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I found a fairly easy way to convert the old wedding cake style tailights to LEDs.

1. Buy a set of LED trailer tailights from your nearest TSC or Northern Tool or Menards. See the picture below.

2. Remove the extraneous license plate and side lights. Tape the wires.

3. Mount the main light assembly on nylon standoffs. Test light functions.

4. Replace the original lenses with new gaskets. Throw away the leftover parts, or use the sidelights and license plate lights elsewhere.
Don, do you have any pictures of them in action yet?
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:52 AM   #30
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I had a lot of trouble keeping my old ones working. I could not keep a good ground with the rust that was around the bulb sockets. I replaced them with LEDs and did the backup lights as well. I like them a lot, very bright and easier to park after dark. Being seen and seeing what you are doing are real important to me. I guess their is a desision to made, whether you are restoring or rebuilding/retrofitting. I think tail/brake lights need work every time and brighter is better.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:52 AM   #31
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Don, do you have any pictures of them in action yet?
I didn't take any "nighttime" pictures, I'll try to get some tonight after dark.

The Tradewind backs up to my shed so I can't get a very good distance shot.
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:01 AM   #32
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I had a lot of trouble keeping my old ones working. I could not keep a good ground with the rust that was around the bulb sockets. I replaced them with LEDs and did the backup lights as well. I like them a lot, very bright and easier to park after dark. Being seen and seeing what you are doing are real important to me. I guess their is a desision to made, whether you are restoring or rebuilding/retrofitting. I think tail/brake lights need work every time and brighter is better.
Looks great, except for the faded reflectors.

Keep an eye on the rear end separation "elephant ear" repair. They usually don't hold up over time and miles, unless additional bolts were used.

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Andy,

What is "Elephant Ear" repair? Any links to this to be able to see if this was done to mine?

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i'm not andy but......... try here.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...elp-35108.html
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What is "Elephant Ear" repair? Any links to this to be able to see if this was done to mine?

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An elephant ear repair, is an abbreviated attempt to correct rear end separation.

It's tell tale sign is when you see a quarter circle of some size, that is on the lower right hand corner of the left rear quarter panel and on the lower left hand corner of the right rear quarter panel.

It's far removed from the proper and recommended repair method to correct rear end separation, but it will take care of the problem temporarily, but permanently put a dent in your pocket book.

That repair is not proper and will in time fail again.

Go to the old posts on this subject as pointed out by richinny, above.

You will find detailed instructions as to how to correct the rear end separation, just about forever. It takes more time and money, but it also corrects a major design fault.

At best, the elephant ear method, is a sorry excuse type temporary repair.

It also will cause more expense down the road, since it's not a repair, but a coverup.

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Don, do you have any pictures of them in action yet?
Here's a daylight picture and a nightime picture.

Sorry about the color, for some reason when you photograph a red LED, even with a red lens, the color of the light looks yellow. I can validate that the lights actually appear red, not yellow.

The daylight picture is taken through the window of my shed, the night picture is taken at about a 45 degree angle from the side.

Incidentally, I added backup lights from VTS, and the trunk is the original front battery box that I relocated and use to store my power cord.
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Here's a daylight picture and a nightime picture.

Sorry about the color, for some reason when you photograph a red LED, even with a red lens, the color of the light looks yellow. I can validate that the lights actually appear red, not yellow.

The daylight picture is taken through the window of my shed, the night picture is taken at about a 45 degree angle from the side.

Incidentally, I added backup lights from VTS, and the trunk is the original front battery box that I relocated and use to store my power cord.
Camera's see some colors better than human eyes.

It doesn't matter what the camera see's from the tail lights, what's important, is what our eyes see.

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