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Old 09-05-2011, 11:55 AM   #309
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We have done the LED replacement thing for the indoor lamps we use while dock'n, also the step and scare lights outside. The goal here was to save DC power. Big improvement!

How many have done the rest of the outdoor lamps, are you happy with the changeover, what was the motivation?
I can't rationalize the power saving angle,(only used underway), in 8yrs I haven't had to replace any of the exterior lamps, and their so... CHEEP!!

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Old 09-05-2011, 12:05 PM   #310
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How many have done the rest of the outdoor lamps, are you happy with the changeover, what was the motivation?
I replaced the front clearance lights on our 1980 with LEDs just to eliminate the chintzy sockets on the incandescents that I was continually having to fiddle with to keep the lamps lit. The operation was very successful so I will do the rear clearance lights when I get a round tuit.
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I think I lost my tuit.

One popular site recommends same color bulbs, ie. red lens, red bulbs. Did you go that route or go clear?

I tried the bulb I got for my step light in one of the amber clearance lights, it sure was bright but mostly white, I can see where an amber would be better BUT more $$.

Maybe around tuit is the way to go, replace as needed. I can DO that.

POI...a little dielectric grease on the base works wonders for that socket corrosion.

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I just replaced the whole clearance light assemblies with LED models, eliminating the sockets altogether.

You definitely want to use red LEDs in red tail lights, amber LEDs in amber lights, etc. The colored lenses were designed to filter the light from an incandescent bulb, which produces a continuous spectrum, to give the desired spectral output. The light from LEDs is not a continuous spectrum. Colored LEDs produce sharp spectral lines in the desired part of the spectrum. White LEDs produce either a combination of spectral lines which look more-or-less white, or use a blue LED to excite a phosphor which produces a more-or-less white spectral output. If you put a white LED in, say, a red tail light, at best the lens is absorbing most of the output of the LED and at worst the LED may put out little or no light in the spectral region passed by the lens.
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I'm looking for red and amber bulbs/strips... that would fit in the teardrop marker lights. Any links would be appreciated!
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Hello out there in Airstream land,

LED4RV,com will help anyone get the correct item if possible. If using the strips in outside mounted lights, they will work best if potted in epoxy so as to prevent moisture damage. The nice thing about Dan at the above address is that he stands behind his stuff. He supplied the LEDs for an entire 500 square foot New York Apartment, which I just had built, 15v strips, 110v GU10 bulbs, and others.

A note. If you are putting in 12v LEDs in an automative or RV application, you may want to use a 15v LED as the RVs and such may run up to nearly 14v and this will kill the LEDs rated for only 12v.

Check the feedback on the web for any supplier. Many who have been touted as good, are found to be those who seem to vanish after a few attempts to resolve problems.

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I just replaced the whole clearance light assemblies with LED models, eliminating the sockets altogether.

You definitely want to use red LEDs in red tail lights, amber LEDs in amber lights, etc. The colored lenses were designed to filter the light from an incandescent bulb, which produces a continuous spectrum, to give the desired spectral output. The light from LEDs is not a continuous spectrum. Colored LEDs produce sharp spectral lines in the desired part of the spectrum. White LEDs produce either a combination of spectral lines which look more-or-less white, or use a blue LED to excite a phosphor which produces a more-or-less white spectral output. If you put a white LED in, say, a red tail light, at best the lens is absorbing most of the output of the LED and at worst the LED may put out little or no light in the spectral region passed by the lens.
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I'm looking for red and amber bulbs/strips... that would fit in the teardrop marker lights. Any links would be appreciated!
FWIW..

As noted above you will get better performance by using the proper color bulb behind the lens you are you are using...there are examples of replacements being offered that do not follow that rational.

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Old 09-08-2011, 07:47 PM   #316
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My experience with LED4RV was terrific. I replaced all of the interior light bulbs in my 2008 Safari 27FB. Dan was very helpful working with me via email to ensure I purchased the right LED's. I had trouble inserting the replacement light in one overhead fixture. Dan met me and personally put the lights in the fixture (I was in the area). A-1 service and support from LED4RV. The new lights are much cooler and energy efficient than the halogens they replaced.
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I bought a couple of LED's to install in our '85 Excella. The double fixture over the sink took 2 of the LED pads that plug into the automotive socket and work fine, no problem. I also got 2 for the reading lights over the front sofa and they cause interferrence in the TV and or radio. Haven't had time to try and track down a solution. Just wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue with their retrofits.

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As noted above you will get better performance by using the proper color bulb behind the lens you are you are using...there are examples of replacements being offered that do not follow that rational.

Bob

I understand the rational behind using the red and amber led bulbs in the teardrop fixtures but I've been on quite a few sites (including LED4RV) and haven't found any that will fit. If someone can post a link I'd be grateful. Have taillights and scarelight, just need teardrop.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:50 AM   #319
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I understand the rational behind using the red and amber led bulbs in the teardrop fixtures but I've been on quite a few sites (including LED4RV) and haven't found any that will fit. If someone can post a link I'd be grateful. Have taillights and scarelight, just need teardrop.
Shelly,

Here's a link...

To expensive for me though...after all your not replacing them for conservation, just looks. Can't recall the last time I replaced a burnt out clearance light.

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After battling the fluorescent light in the bathroom of my trailer for seven years (bad tubes and bad contacts), I installed LED lighting strips from the Airstream store while at Alumapalooza.

The ten-minute installation consisted of cutting the wires to the ballast and attaching the leads with the included crimp connectors. The instructions say that polarity can be ignored, but I was careful to observe the color-coded leads. Sticky pads mount the strips on the reflector. The resulting light comes on instantly and is at least as bright as the original long tubes.

I like it so well that I bought additional strips for the bedroom and over-sink florescent lights as well. A bit pricy at $45 each, but well worth the price.
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After a bunch of research here and on the 'net, I ordered 20 warm white LED pads that each use 24 of what is supposed to be a relatively bright type of LED - called a 5050 LED - from eBay. They came with the socket adapters to plug into the existing incandescent fixtures in my 99 Safari without soldering.

They are called 5050 LEDs because each LED chip on the pad is 5.0 millimeters on each side. Apparently more surface area = more light output and higher efficiency. Most of the LED pads on eBay I saw used smaller, less expensive chips called 3528 LEDs - meaning less light output per LED.



They arrived from Hong Kong in 10 days - I paid $110 including shipping for 20 of them.

I installed them this afternoon - they are quite a bit brighter than the stock incandescent lights, which is exactly what I was shooting for - in the picture below, the new LED pad is on the left and the stock incandescent is on the right. You can see the LED pad is brighter and a little more yellow in color.

100% of them worked the first time out of the box.

Here is a link to the description on eBay.

10x Warm White Dome Bulb 24-5050 SMD LED Super Bright+Adapter(1156/1141/BA15S) | eBay
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Update - it's now been four months and about 6,000 miles of pulling the trailer, plus a whole bunch of tailgaters, and I've had no failures of the LED pads described in the prior post. I've also swapped out all of the incandescent bulbs in my exterior storage compartments for these LED pads, and now am in process of replacing the incandescent bulbs in my refrigerator, range hood, step light and tongue jack with LEDs as well.

Average cost per replacement bulb has been less than $5.

When I'm done, the only incandescent bulbs in the trailer will be the exterior running lights.
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