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Old 01-13-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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Help to Install new teardrop LED marker lights

OK, I searched, but could not find a install of new from Airstream 2 wire teardrop led marker lights.

Do the old 2004 classic marker lights have 2 wires?
Will I need to drill out rivets to remove the old lights?
The new LEDs have a foam base, will I still need to add sealer under the foam?
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Could you please post a picture or link to the new lights?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:45 PM   #3
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OK, I searched, but could not find a install of new from Airstream 2 wire teardrop led marker lights.

Do the old 2004 classic marker lights have 2 wires?
Will I need to drill out rivets to remove the old lights?
The new LEDs have a foam base, will I still need to add sealer under the foam?
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You will need to drill out pop rivets that hold the lights on in most cases.... Sometimes they are screwed into place and the screws will be very rusty and hard to get out so you may have to break them off...

As far as the wiring part of your question, there will either be two wires or one. In the case of one, the black or "hot" wire will connect to the one wire and the white or "neutral" wire will connect to the trailer frame. Note: make sure you get a good grounding to the frame. If there are two wires then connect the two wires. The black should also be hot in this case too! Hope that helps! Bright lights!
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You will need to drill out pop rivets that hold the lights on in most cases.... Sometimes they are screwed into place and the screws will be very rusty and hard to get out so you may have to break them off...

As far as the wiring part of your question, there will either be two wires or one. In the case of one, the black or "hot" wire will connect to the one wire and the white or "neutral" wire will connect to the trailer frame. Note: make sure you get a good grounding to the frame. If there are two wires then connect the two wires. The black should also be hot in this case too! Hope that helps! Bright lights!
Still need to know about using the sealer under the foam....
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OK, I searched, but could not find a install of new from Airstream 2 wire teardrop led marker lights.

Do the old 2004 classic marker lights have 2 wires?
Will I need to drill out rivets to remove the old lights?
The new LEDs have a foam base, will I still need to add sealer under the foam?
Any time you have a two wire light you want to use on an Airstream you have to make up your own eye-let to serve as a ground. Below is a picture of a light that comes from the factory this way.

You will need to get an eye-let, trim and splice your neg(-) wire then put the eye-let on that wire. When you mount your new light include the eye-let so you will complete the circuit. The one single wire on your new light (coming out of the bottom of your light) will attach to the wire coming out of the body of the trailer.

You will need to drill out the rivet to get the old light out.

And you will need to use sealer.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:58 AM   #7
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And you will need to use sealer.
Yes indeed, I agree. I used only the sealer & threw the foam pad away.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:05 PM   #8
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Air-Texas,

I can give you the straight scoop. No guess work. Switching over to LED tear drop clearance lights on a 2004 is fairly simple. All you will need is a wire cutter, phillips screwdriver, some extra wire, and some patients.

Here is my suggestion. Get some medium weight stranded wire and a good straight wire connector. Use the schrink type conector and make a water tight connection with a heat gun. Each light has two wires, a black and a white. It would be good to match the colors to avoid confusion.

1. Remove the old lense and base. Gently pry the base loose with a flat screwdriver or putty knife.

2. Gently pull the base away from the trailer body and pull about 2 inches of wire through the hole before you cut the wire. DO NOT LET THE WIRE DRAW BACK THROUGH THE HOLE!!! There is rubber type caulk on some of the wires that will act like a rubber band to pull the wires back between the walls. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN!!! Some of the lights will have plenty of extra wire between the walls, other lights will be a fight to get 1 1/2 inches to work with.

3. Put about a 4 inch pig tail on the existing wires that are too short for comfort.

4. Hook up your new lights, install a bead of caulk around the wire hole and the two screw holes.

5. Finish up with a bead of caulk around the base.

6 Removing the rear stop lights and back-up lights is really easy. Just remove the four lens screws remove the light bulb and put the new prewired light right into the existing light socket.

I strongly recommend saving your receipt for your new LED lights for the following reasons.

Bargman claims their LED lights last 100,000 hours. Two of my stop lights lasted about 50 hours then half the bulbs went out. Airstream only guarantees them for about 60 days, then you're stuck with them. I don't get it. You couldn't burn the lights 100,000 hours in 60 days if you wanted to. When I complained about the short bulb life at the factory parts store, I was told they only had 6 or 8 bad lights in years. I found it interesting that I got two of them and another AS Forum member got another one.

Having the LED lights is definately worth the hassle of installing them. It remains to be seen how many actual hours I will get out of each bulb.

Try doing a google search on line using Bargman LED lights RV.

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Thanks ALK!
Great post!
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"Yes indeed, I agree. I used only the sealer & threw the foam pad away."
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Two foam pads on the new teardrops?

"foam pad" goes under the lens, needed to keep the h2o out.

..... just replace the bulbs?,><whats the advantage of the whole assembly?

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Old 03-17-2012, 11:42 AM   #11
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Just to get the LED lights...looks cool!!
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Just to get the LED lights...looks cool!!
Was thinking of changing, no ones just changing out the bulb's?
Seems like a lot cheaper way to go.
Especially if you've spent the time getting the tears from weeping & sealed properly.

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Bob and All,

The replacement LED lights has a bulb that throws light to the front as well as in other directions. You won't get that look with just a bulb replacement. If your old base and gaskets are anything like mine were, it isn't worth the time to mess around with the old lights.

The biggest down fall that I see with a whole new LED light replacement is that you should really have one or two extra red and amber tear drops along with an extra two stop lights. If you get to your inspection station and a light isn't working, it's pretty doubtful that the shop will have an LED like you need.

In an earlier message I wrote about two of my LED stop lights burning out. Although Airstream would not stand good for my defective bulbs, I did get the number for the Barg Mfg. Co. and they replaced them for free. In fact, I called one day and they arrived in the mail the very next day. The customer service woman is a real sweet heart.

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Spent too long getting them sealed, not about to remove them now.

I still have to rationalize the change to the exterior replacements that don't have any benefit other than looks. I know they are brighter...but its hard to miss a big silver tube with red and orange dots on it.

Have changed the step and porch along with interior with excellent results, definite improvement in looks and battery life...well worth it.

Plan to try a couple of these and see how they look in the teardrops.

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