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Old 08-31-2008, 06:42 AM   #15
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"...the running lights on the tallest element should be lit.the sorter one should come on with either the brakes depressed or turn signal function."


You lost me with the "tallest" and "shorter" elements. I'm not sure what you mean.
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:01 AM   #16
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Just spent a frustrating time with my left signal, and relearned the following rule:
Start with the towvehicle. Check that all circuits are coming out of it correctly, then be sure that all the connections, wires to pins, are good, screws tight, no corrosion. Then check both ends of umbilical cord and the plug( or connections ) in front of trailer.

I found loose connections in front of trailer, and on tow's plug. (after tearing apart the tailgihts and the whole rear of the inside...)

Bulb should have two filaments, one taller one in back and a shorter one in the front. The pins are offset, as is the socket, so that you can't put the bulb in wrong.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:05 AM   #17
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Well everything is new, so we know that there is no corrosion. We checked the circuits coming from the truck and they are ok.

I see what was meant by the taller and shorter, and that is what my husband said also; "You can't put them in wrong".

We are contemplating tearing the inside walls out too,.......after just painting and laying the carpet I am loathe to do that.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:12 AM   #18
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When you hold bulb with base down and glass up one element will be above the other. It won't be much but you will be able to see the difference. It sounds like you have the power to the back of trailer, the red wire on the left might be attached to the wrong wire at light.if you had the red and green wire crossed at the left outer light it would cause the turn signal issue you are speaking of. It would be feeding the running light circuit causing all the lights to come on while turn signals operating possibly including the lights on the truck, I have seen this happen on a couple of smaller flat bed type trailers that had multiple lights.(5x10 and 6x14 sizes). Just a question since I cant see the wires and how they are attaced, You don't have both wires at the left light attached to the red wire do you? If you can insert a pic of the wires attached at the left light, i know my lights are a pain to remove to get this view, maybe yours are easier.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:12 AM   #19
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I see what was meant by the taller and shorter, and that is what my husband said also; "You can't put them in wrong".
you can if you really want to. i've seen it many times.

since the fixtures are open, you might want to try removing as many bulbs as comfortable and replace them one at a time and watch for something odd to happen. if you find something odd, recheck every connection at that location.

one rare possibility is that a filament has broken in a bulb and shorted to the other filament.
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I see what was meant by the taller and shorter, and that is what my husband said also; "You can't put them in wrong".

You are correct,you shouldn't be able to put them in wrong, But with determination it can be done I have actually seen it. But it is very difficult to do and i don't believe that is your problem.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:21 AM   #21
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I have to leave to run some errands, when I come back I will post some pictures. Maybe that will help too.
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one rare possibility is that a filament has broken in a bulb and shorted to the other filament.

I agree with Ricky here, I didn't think about this possibility. It has been known to happen also even with the bulbs being new it is possible. It may also have a manufacturing defect, but if you try 2 or 3 bulbs and the same problem occurs then the prob lies else where. The chances of getting multiple bad bulbs rare.
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One other thing I just thought about is the socket itself. Age and heat may have cooked the insulation on the wires going into the back and the wires may be touching together. This won't be a short to ground to blow a fuse but will cause other lights to work when they shouldn't be.
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Old 08-31-2008, 03:47 PM   #24
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Ok, now we have another issue. We also replaced the fuse panel and we have something wrong there. When we hooked up the battery we get all the exterior trailer lights on too.

What did we do wrong??
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Old 08-31-2008, 04:16 PM   #25
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It seems as simple as a crossed wire? I have been reading and boy it looks frustrateing
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My husband had the exterior lights wired into the fuse panel according to the panel schematics from the old panel.

After taking these lights off the fuse panel everything works fine - except the brake lights which still don't come on. Are the exterior lights NOT supposed to be wired into the fuse panel??

mustang - yes, it sure is. Especially from someone who bought this two years ago and has never got to use it; and is sooooo close to being able to!
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I just walked out to my A/S and looked at the manual. It seems they are Not wired into the fuse panel. I dont know this to be fact but it sure looks that way to me.
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My trailer is not wired to the fuse panel either. Most trailers use the tow veh fuse panel to protect the circuit. My schedmatic although a 69 has the wires riun from the 7 way plug to the light assemblys strait through. You say you have turn signals now? and runnig lights? 2 or 4 running lights? The brake light and turn signal run through the same wires(red and Brown). Check to see if you have brake lights on the truck. There may have been a fuse in the truck for brakes blow when dealing with the battery in the trailer.
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