We just replaced the toilet in our '62 Trade Wind with a Thetford AquaMagic Style Plus. The rubber lower seal appeared to have fit correctly, but after one weekend of use, we have a small water leak (in our new Pergo Flooring?!)
Should I try to put some type of sealer on the rubber ring, or replace it with a household wax ring.
Nothing worse that a water leak from a new toilet onto a new floor.
We just replaced the toilet in our '62 Trade Wind with a Thetford AquaMagic Style Plus. The rubber lower seal appeared to have fit correctly, but after one weekend of use, we have a small water leak (in our new Pergo Flooring?!)
Should I try to put some type of sealer on the rubber ring, or replace it with a household wax ring.
Nothing worse that a water leak from a new toilet onto a new floor.
Thanks
Retrocats
I would stick with the rubber ring and try to snug up the bolts a bit. The wax ring doesn't work well under vibration. It was designed to be seated one time and one time only. The rubber will give and take under the vibration and normally remain sealed.
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Did the new floor add thickness and thus possibly leave the throat of the toilet above the sewer pipe. While the rubber ring may be tight to the floor if this gap is present water may have a path to the edge of the floor.
We just replaced the toilet in our '62 Trade Wind with a Thetford AquaMagic Style Plus. The rubber lower seal appeared to have fit correctly, but after one weekend of use, we have a small water leak (in our new Pergo Flooring?!)
Should I try to put some type of sealer on the rubber ring, or replace it with a household wax ring.
Nothing worse that a water leak from a new toilet onto a new floor.
Thanks
Retrocats
Wax rings don't work in RVs. I have NEVER seen one used!
Every RV toilet has it's own design-specific rubber sealing ring. On the Thetford, be certain that you have it in correctly as there IS a top and bottom. The tapered edge goes down into the receiving discharge tube, with the flat inside edge frimly placed on the toilet base tube.
If it IS placed in the correct orientation, then tighten the bolts, especially after a week's use. That should solve the problem, provided that the sealing ring is intact.
Kind-a-like re-torquing your lug nuts after the first 100 miles .
The toilet is new so obviously the rubber ring is new also, and is on correct.
I rebuilt the raised floor under and around the toilet, and it is the same heighth as the old. So that there would not be an issue, the Pergo flooring was installed around the toilet, not under it.
Due to the age of the original black tank, I did not want to tighten the bolts too much, for fear of cracking it, so perhaps did not get them snug enough. The toilet seems to be very solidly perched, however. I read on another forum that perhaps the metal ring of the tank was not clean enough, and that I should clean it, and then add a ribbon of silicone around it before reinstalling the toilet.
, the tank was not clean enough, and that I should clean it, and then add a ribbon of silicone around it before reinstalling the toilet.
I'm ready to try whatever will work.
Retrocats
I wouldn't use silicone or any other type of sealant on that rubber seal. It will not work as a substitute for a bad seal. Plus, having just had to remove a seal that the owner 'siliconed' in when he thought that it would fix his leak, it took me over an hour just to get the old seal removed.
USE SILICONE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! IT HAS NO PLACE ON AN AIRSTREAM , IMHO!!!
I wouldn't use silicone or any other type of sealant on that rubber seal.
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USE SILICONE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! IT HAS NO PLACE ON AN AIRSTREAM , IMHO!!!
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I just installed a new Sealand in my GT, and used Silicone on the sealing surfaces per the manufacturers instructions. ??
I hope I'm not relegated to the ranks of SOB now. :-)
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You say the toilet is "New". The supply line and flush valve are possible points of the leak. Up until now we have been thinking the leak happened as a result of a flush. Consider takening the toilet up and out of the trailer and setting it up with a water supply and letting it sit for an hour or so then check.
I guess I am being a contrarian here but I admit to installing a new Thetford toilet w a wax ring.
I'll admit it was in a SOB (Cameo). When I installed the toilet it always had a water leak. I checked about everything, even the level of the floor and any imperfections around the base. Used a new rubber gasket, tightened it, added washers to the bolts, etc, etc, etc.
My reservation at the time was the heat in the trailer when it was stored (live in western Co where the temps regularly hit 100+).Was concerned it would melt and the seal would be lost. Had not thought of the vibration angle.
All I can say is the toilet never leaked for the several years I owned it. I sold it to a friend who still uses the trailer and has had no problems.
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IT HAS NO PLACE ON AN AIRSTREAM , IMHO!!!
However a light coating of silicone GREASE might not be out of order to help keep things "moving" the way they should
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