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Old 07-25-2007, 08:48 PM   #1
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water won't stay in the bowl

I believe our toilet is a thetford, the vintage of the trailer is 74, and most things are original, so I would assume that it is. The toilet works well, and we have used it for three years. However, when you fill the toilet bowl with water, it leaks out gradually. Any reason for this? We have cleaned regularly with solution and brushes, but it still won't retain the water. Is this normal, and if not, any ideas how to remedy this problem.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:08 PM   #2
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I believe our toilet is a thetford, the vintage of the trailer is 74, and most things are original, so I would assume that it is. The toilet works well, and we have used it for three years. However, when you fill the toilet bowl with water, it leaks out gradually. Any reason for this? We have cleaned regularly with solution and brushes, but it still won't retain the water. Is this normal, and if not, any ideas how to remedy this problem.
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You can repair that problem in one of three ways.

1. Change the slide valve gasket, andf take your chances.

2. Change the slide valve and lessen the chances.

3. Replace the entire flush mechanism which includes the water valve. That cures the problem and takes cares of the water valve that is 33 years old.

If the new flush mechanism only lasts another 33 years, then you probably got your moneys worth.

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Old 07-25-2007, 09:12 PM   #3
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The PO of our 85 Excella made a handy little tool out of a wire coat hanger in sort of an L shape with an extra loop at the top as a grip. He said toilet paper occasionaly gets stuck in the slot where the (hold onto your shorts, technical verbage to follow) slider thingy door moves back and forth. We've used it once or twice and it is great. Don't know if this could be your problem but I will say I know when the toilet paper is stuck in there because the water slowly drains out.

BTW: The PO also used a wire coat hanger to make a thing that keeps the fridge and freezer doors open slightly when in storage to prevent mold and mildew. Great guy, great tools.

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BTW: The PO also used a wire coat hanger to make a thing that keeps the fridge and freezer doors open slightly when in storage to prevent mold and mildew. Great guy, great tools.
Sounds like really neat tools so long as you don't get them mixed up!
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Sounds like really neat tools so long as you don't get them mixed up!
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Sounds like really neat tools so long as you don't get them mixed up!
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Spring for a new one or as Andy said:
"Replace the entire flush mechanism which includes the water valve. That cures the problem and takes cares of the water valve that is 33 years old"

I replaced the flush mechanism 2 years ago, and while not the most pleasant of tasks a most rewarding one.

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Our 73 Thedford is doing the same thing. Cleaning out the groove no longer helps. The mechanism that needs to be replaced. Is it still available? If so I am surprised, but not complaining. Any idea on pricing?
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Our 73 Thedford is doing the same thing. Cleaning out the groove no longer helps. The mechanism that needs to be replaced. Is it still available? If so I am surprised, but not complaining. Any idea on pricing?
mine too. what exactly is "the mechanism"...it includes the water valve? I replaced a leaky ball valve a couple of seasons ago, so that part is ok.
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mine too. what exactly is "the mechanism"...it includes the water valve? I replaced a leaky ball valve a couple of seasons ago, so that part is ok.
The Thetford "mechanism" is everything except the plastic toilet bowl and seat.

They are available for toilets going back to 1973.

It has the ball valve, the slide valve, springs, foot pedal, etc, etc.

The real way to fix an old toilet, as you can be done with it for another 30 years.

Replacing the mechanism, piece by piece, is not the way to go, unless there was a premature failure.

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sounds like it would be very quickly approaching the point of "just buy a new toilet"

then again, I thought I heard somewhere that the "new" toilets won't fit the space, so maybe thats the only option.
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mine too. what exactly is "the mechanism"...it includes the water valve? I replaced a leaky ball valve a couple of seasons ago, so that part is ok.
Chuck, mine came with a new
sphincter valve, keegel tightener, and some other small parts



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sounds like it would be very quickly approaching the point of "just buy a new toilet"

then again, I thought I heard somewhere that the "new" toilets won't fit the space, so maybe thats the only option.
You gave up the privilege of having a "simple" life when you bought your Airstream.

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You gave up the privilege of having a "simple" life when you bought your Airstream.

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ya. now you tell me....


(actually, replacing the ball valve was simple; getting the toilet out so that I could access it was a nightmare. )
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