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Old 07-26-2007, 04:50 PM   #15
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ya. now you tell me....


(actually, replacing the ball valve was simple; getting the toilet out so that I could access it was a nightmare. )
Well, if you just asked tomorrow, I could have told you last week.

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Old 07-26-2007, 08:26 PM   #16
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[quote=Inland RV Center, In]You can repair that problem in one of three ways.

1. Change the slide valve gasket, andf take your chances.

2. Change the slide valve and lessen the chances.

3. Replace the entire flush mechanism which includes the water valve. That cures the problem and takes cares of the water valve that is 33 years old.

If the new flush mechanism only lasts another 33 years, then you probably got your moneys worth.

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Sounds like I'll be talking to "your people" in the near future. Thanks for your help, and everyone's entertainment, and information!! I will try the toilet tool, and may even make the fridge tools as well, but I guess in the long run, we will be ordering all the new thingmabobbers (more technical speak) that Andy suggests. While a new toilet sounds like another alternative, I think we will stick with the original for hopefully another 30 some years! May life go smooooooothly for you all!
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:39 PM   #17
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Having owned three AS over past 35 years I have had toilets in and out many times. You take it out to replace a part , put it back and something leaks or another part needs replacing. Andy is right, replace the whole valve, pedal and works assembly and do it once. If however your current bowl is scratched or stained replace the whole toilet. I haven't really enjoyed "hugging" the bowl to disconnect and reconnect the water supply line. In the 73 and 74's with rear bath they had a fold down, padded wood cover. I think if you remove that cover the newer Thetford toilets will fit. If you replace the whole valve assembly be cautious not to strip the screw holes in the plastic. When you replace the screws, turn them backward slowly until you feel them click into the existing thread. If you don't do that you can accidentally cut new threads and strip the existing threads in that hole. Charlie E
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toilet tips

Some very good tips, and thank you! I'm not sure which route we will take at this point. Right now we are enjoying using our trailer at Cape May, and water thingy will have to wait until we are home again.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:11 AM   #19
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Just an aside - I had the same problem with a not-quite 1 year old unit. The water would gradually seep out. Hubby thought he'd have to replace stuff, until we noticed that if we lifted our foot off the flush pedal (for lack of a better term) with a sharper, more quick motion than we were previously using, it would close more firmly and voila. No more water seeping out.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:58 AM   #20
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Just an aside - I had the same problem with a not-quite 1 year old unit. The water would gradually seep out. Hubby thought he'd have to replace stuff, until we noticed that if we lifted our foot off the flush pedal (for lack of a better term) with a sharper, more quick motion than we were previously using, it would close more firmly and voila. No more water seeping out.
Mac,

The foot flush mechanism in your '05 should NOT be operating like that! You have either a weak return spring or a sticky ball valve gasket. It should also be under warranty (depending on the manuf.). I would check with your dealer or service center first.

If no warranty, it's an easy fix. Let me know if you need more info on this.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:27 PM   #21
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Well, now that I think about it - I should add it to the list of "check and fix" when we bring it into the dealer for servicing. It's still under warranty.

Seemed like a minor thing - but makes sense to get it checked.

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Ok, we are getting somewhere.

As a last resort to get the bowl to hold water I once again tried to scrape the groove with my custom groove scraper. Still didn't work. I then filled the bowl with warm water and dish washing soap. Let it sit for 10 minutes as it leaked through. Then took one of those round toilet bowl cleaning brushes, opened the slider gate and forced the bowl brush into the passage. Then rotated the bowl brush back and forth.

A small amount of debris came out on the brush and I wasn't to enthusiastic that I solved the problem but to my surprise it did!

We went away for the weekend and it held water perfectly.

Now the last issue is water leaking into the bowl whenever the pump is left on. I assume there is a water off/on valve that is leaking.
If I remove the toilet assembly will I be able to service or replace this valve?

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Ok, we are getting somewhere.

As a last resort to get the bowl to hold water I once again tried to scrape the groove with my custom groove scraper. Still didn't work. I then filled the bowl with warm water and dish washing soap. Let it sit for 10 minutes as it leaked through. Then took one of those round toilet bowl cleaning brushes, opened the slider gate and forced the bowl brush into the passage. Then rotated the bowl brush back and forth.

A small amount of debris came out on the brush and I wasn't to enthusiastic that I solved the problem but to my surprise it did!

We went away for the weekend and it held water perfectly.

Now the last issue is water leaking into the bowl whenever the pump is left on. I assume there is a water off/on valve that is leaking.
If I remove the toilet assembly will I be able to service or replace this valve?

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The water control valve can be replaced.

However, since the toilet is 34 years old, you should replace the entire flushing mechanism. It's everything except the bowl and seat.

That should let your toilet live another 34 years.

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Thnxs again Andy for your good advice. I will take a drive up to Can Am and see if I can get the assembly.
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I replaced my whole toilet.

After taking the trouble to remove the toilet, I did not want to
put the same old plastic toilet back in. I opted for a brandy new low profile
porcelin toilet from Sealand. It was under $200. The plastic bowls get scatches in them after years of scrubbing. The scratches seem to grow bacteria real well. I feel safe now scrubbing the bowl without concerns about scratching it.
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Today I replaced the water shutoff in the old Aqua Magic. No problem. But...... before I go to install the toilet back in the trailer I poured some water in the bowl just to be sure it had no leaks. Dang! The bowl was holding water before I took it out. Now it leaks badly. What the heck happened?
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Ours does the same thing because the little slide part doesnt close tightly on its own. I take my foot and slightly lift up on the pedal after each flush and the water stays. May not be your problem, but worth a try.
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Thanx John. When the slider assembly was out of the toilet I saw that the slider had an 1/8" gap so it wasn't closed all the way. Don't know why but it did hold water before??
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