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Old 05-18-2012, 10:18 AM   #29
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Dometic calls those spray wands "Water Savers" and they really do save water when used correctly. You spray the water just where it's needed to clean the bowl so it can economize on water usage. I now think all toilets ought to have one plumbed in next to it. Use more water with the fecal matter and you won't get the black mountains under the throne. Also Scott Septic Safe tp breaks down easily and it isn't too rough.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #31
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Scott tissue breaks down fairly well and is easy to find at a grocery store.

Someone said that ANY tank additive will do. I don't agree!!!
I have a problem with famaldihyde ( sp ) It's not good on the environment
I use enzyme treatments. Ridex is cheap and is also available all over.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:30 AM   #32
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Someone said that ANY tank additive will do. I don't agree!!!
I have a problem with famaldihyde ( sp ) It's not good on the environment
I use enzyme treatments. Ridex is cheap and is also available all over.
I said Ridex and ANY TP that is Septic Tank Safe
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:59 PM   #33
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Hi Clancy, Mke said........

" I start the black tank with a couple of good flushes and tank deodorizer,digester. Any brand will probably do. " Sorry for the confusion
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #34
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Do also remember that newer Airstreams have gray tanks and generally much larger black tanks than vintage models. Mine has 30 gallons of gray & black.... now that's a lotta sh**.

When I don't have full hookups, I shower with the drain plug in, then bail water into a bucket and hence into the toilet. When the water gets too shallow to be easily bailed, I pull the drain plug. Dumping that much water certainly agitates & dilutes.

If you have a vintage unit with 10-15 gallon black capacity & you're using a blue boy for gray water, then adding a whole lot of water to the black tank isn't possible... but even a gallon or two should help. Speaking of slope on the tank - why don't they have a teflon coating on the inside? Or should we drain & spray with PAM? Eeeeeuh just grossed myself out.

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Do also remember that newer Airstreams have gray tanks and generally much larger black tanks than vintage models. Mine has 30 gallons of gray & black.... now that's a lotta sh**.

When I don't have full hookups, I shower with the drain plug in, then bail water into a bucket and hence into the toilet. When the water gets too shallow to be easily bailed, I pull the drain plug. Dumping that much water certainly agitates & dilutes.

If you have a vintage unit with 10-15 gallon black capacity & you're using a blue boy for gray water, then adding a whole lot of water to the black tank isn't possible... but even a gallon or two should help. Speaking of slope on the tank - why don't they have a teflon coating on the inside? Or should we drain & spray with PAM? Eeeeeuh just grossed myself out.

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Old 05-18-2012, 05:40 PM   #36
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Calgon bath beads work just fine. Just put a small handful in after you flush along with the usual chemical. A dash of Pinesol doesn't hurt, either. Both will aid in lubricating the seals on your dump valves.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:26 PM   #37
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To each is own...

The word chemical just doesn't sit well with me. My friend has been using
the blue chemical black tank treatment and fancy soft quilted toilet paper.
I use an enzyme treatment and Scott tissue. She had clumps of toilet paper when dumping, I had no evidence of toilet paper at all, as it all broke down.
She tried my method with out flushing ALL of the blue chemical out, and she had a smell issue. The toxic blue stuff inhibits the enzymes. I am guessing that is why some people are resisting the enzyme treatment. I want to leave a
cleaner planet for my kids, so that is why I am harping on it.
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While we are on the topic of " waste"

There was a study done on out houses. They dug a six foot deep hole, about
the same diameter of a telephone pole. They estimated that it a family of four could use it for a year, and then plant a tree there. They said that the effluent wouldn't get more than an inch away from the hole before micro organisms would eat it up, and basically turn it into fertilizer.
Anyone who has a septic thank knows not to put chemicals down the drain,
because it inhibits the waste from breaking down. Wally Byrum used to just dig a hole under his camper for dumping. If a dog crapped on my lawn, I wouldn't run out and put chemicals on it. I know my theories won't work at a campground or rally, but all those chemicals end up somewhere.
So people can keep talking chemicals, but please let me keep talking environment. Sorry if I offend anyone or the chemical companies.
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I start with five or more gallons of water in my holding tank after flushing. Ice cubes before towing do a nice jobs of scrubbing and breaking up stuff.
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People look at me funny when I bring this topic up at family dinners, so glad there are like minded people that care about real issues.
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A lesson we learned because we have a sailboat in the family too..."nothing goes into the head, that hasn't been eaten first" !!!

We use our usual quilted soft TP in our C34 & our Beneteau 36 & it (obviously) does not go into the black tank...but instead into a sealed container after use.

The Admiral is in charge of depositing the blue "pucks" that control the sent & help break down the stools, so we don't end up with a "dung mountain" as some of you have described.

We also pour generous amounts of water into the black tank when we flush & always make sure there's enough water to slosh around in the tank when were travelling, to keep everything in good working order.
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