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Old 01-31-2009, 11:59 PM   #1
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Townsend Porcelain toilet repair.

I have a 66 caravel with a Townsend toilet. The flushing mechanism is in need of repair. The spring on the flapper seal is broken. Does anyone no if there is a replacement and if so how to I go about replacing the spring under to foot pedal. There is also a leak in the bottom of the bowl around the flushing mechanism. I really don't want to replace the toilet as I like the looks of the old one and I'm afraid I will never be able to remove the studs without damaging the holding tank.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 02-01-2009, 08:12 AM   #2
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Hi toothDr, I found one answer for you take a look here. Townsend. Good luck. You may find the parts you need form a sealand toilet. The parts are similar
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:20 AM   #3
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Refer to the site on Townsend mentioned above. Then look here in the Vintage Forum area. Under Caravel you will find lots of info on this system. Pulling the studs and replacing them is easy and probably necessary. Its also something you can do if you have to reseal the top fitting. If the top of the black tank is not already cracked it will be in the future. You can brace the floor/tank by access thru the closet. Its the flex in the floor around the toilet base that caves in and cracks the tank. You have the best with a 66 Caravel.
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Old 02-01-2009, 12:17 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info. In trying to remove the studs the back stud just turns and I can't remove the nut. I assume that this means that the flange on the black tank is broken. Should I just try and cut the stud off at the base of the nut with a Dremel tool?
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:18 PM   #5
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Just yesterday I removed the Townsend in my 65 and replaced it with a SeaLand. The water tank was cracked and the seals old and brittle. You are welcome to the misc. bits and pieces (springs?) If they would be of help in your restoration.

When I went to remove the bolts the studs just broke-off (corrosion). The studs were the kind that slip into the flange. Since the flange was in decent shape I did not risk removing it, but was able to put in the new bolts into the old flange and attach the new toilet.
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:45 PM   #6
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I repaired the original toillet in my 65 caravel. It came apart in 3 pieces. Take off the tank, take off the bowl, disconnect the flush rod and you're left with the bottom/valve to tank assembly. You can take your gaskets to a plumbing outlet and match them up and use a wax ring and plumbers putty to plug leaks. I put a shut-off valve on the water supply line, then ran a flex tube to a rubber cork in the hole where the tank used to sit. I blocked off the other inlet hole, and flush using the 1/4 turn shut-off valve., using the foot valve to open the flapper into the tank. I have pictures, but it takes awhile to load them with dial-up, so let me know abuot that! joe q
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Old 02-01-2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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What model Sealand did you install. I managed to get to the old Townsend off. The seal was in very poor shape and the the lever that flushes the toilet and opens the flapper is shot. I think I will just go ahead and replace the whole thing. The mounting flange and holding tank appear to be in good shape except for a little surface rust. Did your new Sealand mounts line up with the old mounting flange?

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I put in the Sealand Traveler Lite, purchased from vintagetrailersupply.com

I chose the higher version because it was closest to the Townsend (and I'm tall), but others might prefer the low model. It lined up perfectly with my existing floor flange. It came with new bolts which I certainly needed. The only trick was it uses a 1/2 supply line instead of the 3/8 copper line that the my townsend used.

The tall version uses 2 bolts, and has two additional screws at the rear of the base. But since there is nothing except the black tank to screw them into, I skipped that part. It feels secure. I think the four bolt flange that the low version uses might be better?
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I repaired the original toillet in my 65 caravel. It came apart in 3 pieces. Take off the tank, take off the bowl, disconnect the flush rod and you're left with the bottom/valve to tank assembly. You can take your gaskets to a plumbing outlet and match them up and use a wax ring and plumbers putty to plug leaks. I put a shut-off valve on the water supply line, then ran a flex tube to a rubber cork in the hole where the tank used to sit. I blocked off the other inlet hole, and flush using the 1/4 turn shut-off valve., using the foot valve to open the flapper into the tank. I have pictures, but it takes awhile to load them with dial-up, so let me know abuot that! joe q
Joquin:

I just purchased a '65 Caravel and I'm very interested in how you fixed your toilet. Could you please upload those pics? or send to me. I'm new to this. My flapper came off in my hand and I think the previous owner flushed with a bucket of water . . . I'm currently trying to restore the fresh water system and the toilet needs some serious attention. I think I found the original water pressure regulator in drawer. The copper pipe has pieces replace with automotive rubber hoses. I'm going to replace it all, probably with PVC. Any thoughts?
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sounds like you have a decision to make! I think once the flapper goes, you don't have a pot to poop in anymore! I bought a slightly "used" thetford aquamagic 4, low profile plastic toilet, then decided that I like china better! You, or anyone out there, can have this toilet for the cost of shipping (it's bulky, but it only weighs 8 lbs). And go with PEX tubing and sharkbite connectors and you'll be glad you did! I think I can get another yr out of my old toilet and then I'll have to look at getting a new one myself... joe q
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