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05-30-2016, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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Toilet leaks around base intermittently.
So we had the Trailer out to the coast this weekend, and on a couple of occasions, found some water on the floor around the base of the toilet. It wasn't a lot of water, and it didn't appear immediately when we flushed the toilet, but would consistently reappear after a while. Anyone know what the cause, and fix might be?
Mike
2015 27 FC FB
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05-30-2016, 08:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caffeinated
So we had the Trailer out to the coast this weekend, and on a couple of occasions, found some water on the floor around the base of the toilet. It wasn't a lot of water, and it didn't appear immediately when we flushed the toilet, but would consistently reappear after a while. Anyone know what the cause, and fix might be?
Mike
2015 27 FC FB
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Could it be condensation? Is yours a porcelain/China toilet? If so, depending on weather conditions, if you were/n't using AC, with Windows open, etc., there are lots of conditions for condensation.
But if it wasn't all over the pedestal, you may have a misfitting seal. Do the 2 bolts appear evenly tight? Is the bottom of the toilet touching the floor all the way around?
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05-30-2016, 11:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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Put some food coloring in the bowl, then flush and see if leak matches it....I used this trick last week to determine my toilet had a leaking base seal.
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05-31-2016, 11:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I don't think it was condensation. I will have to check the bolts. The food dye is a good idea.
Mike
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05-31-2016, 12:10 PM
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ShinyPete
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Bushnell
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 413
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This could also be slosh from the water in the bowl while towing. It has happened to us while on the road and we went up or down a steep entryway to a parking lot.
Of course if it happened while sitting still then ignore that and look at foot valve mechanism and the base seal for cracks or leaks.
Hope this helps.
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05-31-2016, 01:15 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Condensation
Splash from bowel
Cracked pex fitting at back on flush line
We had a puddle to left of toilet - no source was evident - believed condensation.
Rear plumbing and black tank destroyed - repaired and found a pex fitting leak - replaced - have not seen water since - check for a cracked fitting - believe variable water pressure may be the reason the leak comes and goes, but in time it likely will get worse.
May be condensation as we are in a dry climate and were not when we first saw the problem.
Powder on floor or paper towels taped around area may help you trace the source.
Good luck with investigation. Pat
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05-31-2016, 02:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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Ours did that too, turned out the water line in the back of the toilet would occasionally drip and gravity just put it alongside the base of the toilet. I turned the fitting a little tighter and it's been ok for this past trip.
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Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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05-31-2016, 02:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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of course if the roof vent is open and it's rainy and windy.... and you think EEWH who did that on my nice floor, then you realize it was you...
On the Avion I had a fantastic fan put in the bathroom - greatest thing in the world - condensation from shower GONE in six seconds. Evidence of chili dinner? What? it smells like rosebuds in here.
Leaky line happened to me, simple zero money fix.
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05-31-2016, 08:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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OK, it might have been condensation. It might be the seal at the base. Or maybe a pex fitting. Woo Hoo, this is fun. :/
Mike
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06-01-2016, 10:27 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB International
North Kingstown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 14
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Our first trip in our new 25 we had same problem.
It was the "O" gasket that seats the toilet to the floor. When we looked into the bowel with the valve opened you could see the ring across the opening , out of place. The toilet was bolted down tightly across the gasket... "Factory installed!"
Easy fix by lifting the bowel and resetting the gasket.
Good idea with the food coloring.
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06-01-2016, 11:25 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
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Toilet leak
Had same problem with new 2016 Flying Cloud. Back to dealer (under warranty) leak at conceptions.
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06-01-2016, 11:31 AM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 961
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Mine was dripping on the outside. I will try that food dye, that is a good idea. It will determine whether it is condensation or not.
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06-01-2016, 05:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 106
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Recognize the symptoms exactly. New foot valve kit for us. Thank you, Vinnie.
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06-01-2016, 05:35 PM
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blackdog06
2017 25' Flying Cloud
2015 23' Flying Cloud
Tuttle
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 98
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Our toilet leaks once every trip a bit of water at the back of the base. I was thinking it might be from too much pressure as it seems to be by the shut off valve? Weird though, that it only happens one time and the rest of the trip is bone dry...
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06-01-2016, 08:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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I had this happen and found it was the handheld sprayers valve was sticking intermittently and leaking on the floor.
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06-01-2016, 10:29 PM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackdog06
Our toilet leaks once every trip a bit of water at the back of the base. I was thinking it might be from too much pressure as it seems to be by the shut off valve? Weird though, that it only happens one time and the rest of the trip is bone dry...
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Mine is not every trip. When it happens, it only happens at the beginning and then nothing after.
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08-14-2016, 12:45 PM
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Duck Alum(inum)
2008 19' International
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 20
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Installing the new foot valve
Quote:
Originally Posted by lindaebrewer
Recognize the symptoms exactly. New foot valve kit for us. Thank you, Vinnie.
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I think I have the exact same problem, a minor drip directly underneath the foot valve. I've seen a water droplet coming off the bottom of that black valve cover (or whatever it is; see photo; leak not included) under the foot valve. Did you install your own new foot valve? Is there a video or a website that will show me how to do this? Or is that something best left to the professionals?
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09-03-2016, 10:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I forgot about this old thread. For what it's worth, I resolved my issue by hand tightening the plastic compression nut by the toilet shut off valve. It hasn't leaked since.
Mike
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12-05-2016, 11:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Gold Canyon
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 35
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2005 Safari LS 25'
So am a newbie and experienced the same problem while dry camping a few weeks ago. Note the trip was out for a total of 8 days, first four were dry camping, last four we had water and electric hooks ups. Same CG, different sites.
The water pooled on the left side of the toilet but was DEFINITELY leaking from either the flush valve or hose that connected the valve to the shut off. Could not figure out a patter when and why it would happen. I tried to tighten valve/hose connection but had difficulty getting pliars onto the fitting due to the proximity of the wall to the back of the toilet.
Suggestions would be welcomed!
Regards, Ed
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12-05-2016, 11:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 Argosy 24
hartselle
, Alabama
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 582
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Toilet is very easy pull to get at the valves and hose connections. The valves are pretty cheap so if I was pulling toilet I'd go ahead and get a new valve. When you install new valve make sure and use Teflon seal tape on the threaded hose connections. I do cold weather camp so I keep a spare flush valve in my tool bag.
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