Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-07-2005, 03:10 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
mello mike's Avatar
 
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
Images: 53
Smile Toilet Flange won't unscrew!!

I need to replace the toilet flange in my 1972 Sovereign. The outer ring of the flange is damaged and won't permit bolting down the toilet.

Does anybody have any advice on getting this blasted thing out? The outer ring freely turns but I can't get at the main part of the metal flange in the middle that screws into the blank tank.

Does anybody have any experience working on these? Is there a special tool?
__________________

__________________
1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE

WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP

My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
http://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
mello mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 03:37 PM   #2
3 Rivet Member
 
desi arnaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 183
do they make a handicapp toilet for the airstreams?
__________________

__________________
desi arnaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 03:54 PM   #3
4 Rivet Member
 
Pschoerrn's Avatar

 
1971 29' Ambassador
Braunschweig , Germany
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 410
Images: 9
Mike,
can you post a picture of your flange?? I just removed ours without any problem, but it was only one part...

Bjoern
__________________
Björn H. Adam
Wolfenbuettel, Germany

AirstreamForumsMember No. AIR 5535

Proud Owner of a 1971 Ambassador 29' called "Dave"

-A stranger is a friend you just haven´t met before!-
unknown irish

davetheairstream
Pschoerrn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 04:25 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
Sneakinup's Avatar
 
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay , ^
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 708
Images: 117
Tank Tool

I made this one with my wire feed welder to remove the flange in my tank. This very tool removed the stuck flange on VINTAGE THUNDER in less than 30 seconds! I wonder if that will increase it's value if I decide to sell it on Ebay. Hmmmm.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	tanktool22.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	37.5 KB
ID:	13227  
__________________
My 77 Sovereign Renovation
Out in the woods, or in the city, It's all the same to me.
When I'm drivin' free, the world's my home....When I'm mobile.



Sneakinup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 05:32 PM   #5
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
I need to replace the toilet flange in my 1972 Sovereign. The outer ring of the flange is damaged and won't permit bolting down the toilet.

Does anybody have any advice on getting this blasted thing out? The outer ring freely turns but I can't get at the main part of the metal flange in the middle that screws into the blank tank.

Does anybody have any experience working on these? Is there a special tool?
I used a hammer, and a thin bladed chisel, to unscrew the flange. It was a pain in the @!@#$.
Unscrewing is counterclockwise, just like a bolt.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 08:32 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
PizzaChop's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville , Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 747
Images: 202
Ditto (hammer and chisel..or screwdriver)

I just removed mine from the '73 Sovereign and I used a hammer and screwdriver. There are two slots opposite each other and you need to patiently work it out. It took a while because it was threaded in quite a ways. Be careful as you don't want to damage the tank

(Tripoli sailors were always just a bit ahead of New Orleans.)
__________________
Ron Kaes
Psalm 112
www.paparonnis.com
PizzaChop is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 09:13 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
mello mike's Avatar
 
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
Images: 53
Yeah, but here's the problem...

If the flange was one piece there would be little problem getting it out. But my flange essentially has two pieces: the center piece which screws into the black tank and an outer ring which spins freely with the small screws removed.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	gasket.jpg
Views:	113
Size:	46.3 KB
ID:	13235  
__________________
1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE

WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP

My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
http://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
mello mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 04:52 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
TomW's Avatar
 
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville , Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,918
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
...The outer ring freely turns but I can't get at the main part of the metal flange in the middle that screws into the blank tank...
Mike,

FWIW, on my Overlander, the outer ring was metal, but the inner part was ABS plastic. Circled in one of the pictures below are the recesses Sneakinup's masterful creation was designed to accomodate. I'm fairly sure that was where Ron & Terry were also gently persuading the flange to unscrew.

You may not have an original flange. If yours has no recesses, you may want to consider cutting the outer ring off, and using a rather large pipe wrench to unscrew the inner part. A new, one piece flange will be available from any RV dealer for under $10.

Tom
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Flange2.JPG
Views:	117
Size:	20.9 KB
ID:	13254   Click image for larger version

Name:	Flange1.JPG
Views:	102
Size:	29.6 KB
ID:	13255  

TomW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 05:08 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
PizzaChop's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville , Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 747
Images: 202
NASA Engineer Saves the Day With Photo

Thanks Tom!

You've come through again, as usual!

I used those two indents on the inside to remove it. The ABS did start to chip away so I was careful with each hit.
__________________
Ron Kaes
Psalm 112
www.paparonnis.com
PizzaChop is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2005, 05:48 AM   #10
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
Mike,

FWIW, on my Overlander, the outer ring was metal, but the inner part was ABS plastic. Circled in one of the pictures below are the recesses Sneakinup's masterful creation was designed to accomodate. I'm fairly sure that was where Ron & Terry were also gently persuading the flange to unscrew.

You may not have an original flange. If yours has no recesses, you may want to consider cutting the outer ring off, and using a rather large pipe wrench to unscrew the inner part. A new, one piece flange will be available from any RV dealer for under $10.

Tom
Tom, those are the notches I chiseled into to get mine off. It had been on there for 30+ years, and resisted mightily, but resistance is futile.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2005, 09:28 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
mello mike's Avatar
 
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
Images: 53
Victory!!!

Resistance IS futile. Thanks everyone for the tips. I ended up using a rubber mallet and flat bladed screwdriver. Only took about 15 minutes.
__________________
1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE

WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP

My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
http://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
mello mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2005, 09:34 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
PizzaChop's Avatar
 
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville , Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 747
Images: 202
Congrats!

Mike,

Now you can fit your hand through the hole to break loose some of that old TP!
__________________

__________________
Ron Kaes
Psalm 112
www.paparonnis.com
PizzaChop is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Toilet Replacement 3Ms75Argosy Sinks, Showers & Toilets 22 02-18-2007 08:51 PM
Rear toilet platform rotten, now what?? MontanaArgy Cabinets, Counter Tops & Furnishings 9 08-14-2005 07:46 AM
Toilet Overflow bentguy Sinks, Showers & Toilets 4 07-09-2004 04:07 PM
toilet doesn't hold water.... Chuck Sinks, Showers & Toilets 12 10-08-2002 11:03 AM
Raise the toilet FrankR Sinks, Showers & Toilets 0 03-15-2002 10:57 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.