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Old 05-13-2009, 09:37 AM   #1
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Toilet closet size

I'm in the midst of changing my floor plan and was wondering how much room should be allowed for the toilet area. I'm open for as many ides as I can get.
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hi, what year and model do you have? i was just recently thinking about the same thing. i measured my body, torso to knee in sitting position. then add room for the model toilet you are going to use and what is attached behind the seat area on the toilet and any access you might need to for maintenance. . dont forget to add a couple inches of knee room for taller friends -or just put a height indicator outside the door and a sign 'no one taller than this line allowed'
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:35 AM   #3
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Actually mine is a 1963 22' Silver Streak Sabre. Dual axels take up alot of the area and will be considered on my next trailer. The main reason I am changing the floorplan is to have a dedicated bed instead of a gaucho.
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Our '56 Safari has a wetbath/toilet closet about as tight as I could ever imagine. It is tucked in the front corner and the straight edges measure 29"x39" and includes a raised black tank "stepped" area under the toilet. It's very efficient shall we say...I would think if you used the same footprint on a side wall rather than in a corner it would be just as functional and feel a little more roomy...we affectionately call ours a "birdbath".

The bath mat in the photo below is 17"x24"

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Shari, I'm reworking my layout and I'm toying with the idea of a dry bath and small shower versus the wet bath. Do you mind having the wet bath? I've never had a wet bath and the wife is not looking forward to a wet bathroom : (
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I am also changing to a wet bath next to the wheel well (1). I bought the toilet first and then stood in front of the toilet while my wife measured. I don't know what the exact measurment is, but it is going to be cozy. Close to Shari's though.
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Shari, I'm reworking my layout and I'm toying with the idea of a dry bath and small shower versus the wet bath. Do you mind having the wet bath? I've never had a wet bath and the wife is not looking forward to a wet bathroom : (
Frankly, we haven't used it quite yet...we are hooking up the plumbing currently - hope to have it done by Memorial Day weekend. Sooooo, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet...I think it'll be okay ~ sure makes a lot of "logical" sense to me. Why dedicate so much space to a shower/bathroom that so little time is actually spent in there. I'd much rather have a larger multi-function living space. Our '64 GT has 2/3's of the back 3-1/2 to 4 feet dedicated to the bathroom(the other 1/3rd is closet space)...just seems like a waste, especially in a small trailer. We'll see...I may have a different opinion after using it over time ~

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If you just use it for 'business', then as small as possible.
If it serves as a reading-room as well, then a little bigger!
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Michael. On my redesign plan I'm hoping for something reasonably spacious but before I start fabricating I'll be taking a trip to an RV dealer with my tape measure. Easier still would be making a couple of temporary walls in a bathroom at home. By temporary I mean using a few cardboard boxes or something.

I hope to use a modified step shower pan over the dual axle assembly maybe that's something that would help your layout too.
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Yeah, me too...but I prefer a softer, more comfortable chair!

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Truckasaurus,

That is exactly what I had in mind. here is a shower pan that I showed my wife and she REALLY liked the idea of a sitting platform for shaving legs. Here's what I am considering. Lyons Industries

On a related subject(maybe I should start a new thread) Does it matter what side the waste dump valve is located? Mine was originally on the street side and my new floorplan is moving the toilet to the curbside. I think I've read that the dump valve should be as close to directly below the black tank as possible.
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Does it matter what side the waste dump valve is located? Mine was originally on the street side and my new floorplan is moving the toilet to the curbside. I think I've read that the dump valve should be as close to directly below the black tank as possible.
Most campgrounds have the dump hook-ups on the street side. - not the curb side. So, that means you will have to run your sewer hose all the way under your trailer or park backwards in your site - some campgrounds aren't laid out to allow this and if they are, do you really want your sewer hose going through your patio area/curbside?

And yes, the dump valve should be as located as close to the black tank as possible - less "pipe" to potentially get backed up. the closer to vertical/greater slope down, the better the flow.

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Bear in mind I've not spent a night in an RV since I was a kid but I think the consensus is that dump valves are better located on the street side away from the more useful outside space near the door.

My (as yet untested plan) utilizes the Sealand Vacuflush system, the toilet will be curbside just behind the rear wheel arch. The black tank is to be remotely located towards the rear (under the bed) and the output will be street side rear.

My grey tank is located just behind the rear axle so I have several choices regarding how to run the dump set up. My favorite idea is to use a pump to dump the grey tank
using a top entry tube, like the Vacuflush system does. Going this route mean zero pipe and valve below the belly, possibly just a 1 1/2" wide quick fitting that another forum member used.
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