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Old 10-21-2007, 10:01 PM   #21
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Love the shower!!

Ya got to have a shower! The wet shower in our 22' is not so bad. The PO installed some rubber boat matting on the floor which keeps your feet out of the puddle of water, and keeps the fiberglass from getting scratched by shoes. We keep a sponge and rubber squeegee in the bathroom to wipe down the walls and toilet after the last person uses it. It all works out fine.

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Old 10-21-2007, 10:57 PM   #22
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No shower? That will hurt your ability to boon dock and lower the value/sellability of the trailer.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:16 PM   #23
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Hot Showers Rule !

I use my shower in my Caravel everytime I go camping. Maybe once or twice per trip. Easy to use and I haven't used all 6 gals of hot water yet. I don't use it everyday while camping tho.

I don't see the value of not having a shower in my particular trailer. It is right in the center at the rear. Besides the enclosure covers the entire inside rear of the Caravel. Way more modification than I wanted to do to not have it.

I would keep the shower and make it a wet bath. Just my .02
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:11 AM   #24
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Wet baths are common in sailboats costing upwards of $300K,
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:04 AM   #25
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Can't live well without the shower

Hey Urban, I vote for the wet bath in your vintage situation. Space saving and very workable. A shower was a top criteria in my vintage Airstream search. My 1960 Tradewind has a wet bath. The shower pan is nearly as big as newer Airstreams. I manage to drape enough shower curtain around the toilet and riser to prevent the area from getting wet each time I shower, which is at least once daily when camping. A well-made teak slat mat works well to protect vintage shower pans and keep feet out of a slow-drain situation.

Gotta have the shower ~ just love the hot shower!
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:18 PM   #26
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I am interested in this floor plan for my 50 Flying Cloud. What is a gaucho and where would one find a wet toilet unit?
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that's what i currently have planned is a wet bath, toilet and the shower pan next to it. truth is now that i look at it again, i wouldn't pick up that much space by eliminating the shower because you still need room for the toilet.

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Old 11-16-2007, 11:12 PM   #27
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In the current build out of my FC I did not include a shower. For one thing, by putting the twin beds in the rear the toilet area is quite small. So far we have not found this to be a problem. When boon docking sponge baths are fine for us and saves a lot of water. We've seldom found CG's where the showers were not up to basic standards.

Your floor plan is the same as mine excepting the twins. It works really well and is very live-able for extended camping even when the weather is not that great out.

I may yet turn the shower into a wet bath by building a stainless floor pan that includes the wheel well area but so far the need just isn't there. I would also need to better seal the side walls to the outside wall, but I do have a regular house type shower door for the bathroom door and covered the glass on the outside by gluing 1/8th inch wood to it. So far that has worked really well.

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Old 11-17-2007, 12:28 AM   #28
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My wife and I toured New Zealand & Austrailia in a rented motorhome, KEA brand, that had a small shower, toilet & sink arangment. We used the shower a few times but every 2 or 3 nights would take advantage of an option that was available at most "Caravan Parks" or RV campgrounds.
An "ENSUITE UNIT". Yup, a private bathroom with FULL sized shower, toilet & sink with heat if needed & LOTS of HOT water. Only cost between $2.50 & $4.00 US dollars per night additional and was it ever worth the $. After a Hot & Dry day, a shower was heaven.
We where in NZ Feb 13 thru Mar5, '06 and OZ from Mar 6 thru Apr 14, '06
With the MH for 19 days in New Zealand, we drove 2400 miles. NZ is just a tad larger than the State of Oregon. In OZ we had the MH for 34 days and covered 6,800 miles. The average cost per night was about $14.00 to $18.00 US d. Then 1.00 AU dollar was .77 US d.
Am sure glad we went, but then that is another story not related to the green back.

Those Ensuite units would be GREAT adition to any US campground because DOWN-UNDER there were RV's of all sizes where using them. As well as the tent campers.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:55 AM   #29
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David,

I would put the shower in. I made sure I had room in my 59 just so I did not have to fight with campground showers. Also when I travel I carry water so that if I stop at some place that is not a campground then I can still shower. Also At some of the rallies I have been to the location did not have showers so having my own worked well. I used a tub from a 62 Tradewind and in my case put in the rear corner.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:40 AM   #30
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Anybody hear of a sponge bath? We have used this method for many years while boondocking or dry-camping. We have 2 large SS bowls that nest together, a pot for boiling water and a large bath sponge, voila. We don't mind seeing each other naked, even with all the wrinkles. Yes we have an outdoor shower (Nice for the dogs) and one inside too, in our new Safari Sport, but methinks while boondocking we'll still sponge bath.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:48 PM   #31
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I'm thinking of putting in a pseudo wet bath. The idea is to have the shower floor be 42 x 34" shower pan which is also where you would put your feet while sitting on the toilet and where you would stand while using the sink. However a curtain would separate the toilet and sink area from the shower pan when showering so the only part of the bathroom that would get wet is the floor. I saw the Dri-dek tiles mentioned in another post. Dri-Dek | Interlocking Tiles, Sheets & Rolls and I think it would be reasonable to have one Dri dek mat that filled the shower pan. I think multiple use is the name of the game in a small trailer so to have a small shower that sits empty most of the time and a small area to stand at the sink is worse than to have a common floor space that does double duty. Has anybody seen or tried anything like this? I would love to hear other opinions and ideas.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:10 PM   #32
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Between the choice of a sponge bath and a shower, I would usually pick the shower (but that depends on who is giving me the sponge bath...)
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:33 PM   #33
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We have a wet bath (shower, toliet and sink) in our Safari. I got the Dri-Dek tiles and it really helps keep your feet dry. It works well for us.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:59 PM   #34
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After 4 1/2 months on our great Alaska adventure, I could not imagine not having the option of having a hot shower available when wanted. We dry camped most of the time. State, Provincial and National Parks were our primary choice for camping (boondocking would have ben first, but doing the research to find suitable safe places while traveling proved difficult).
Daily sponge baths were sufficient, but a full shower every 2nd or 3rd day kept us comfortable. I should say, though, that we are also sailors who are accustomed to taking a shower while using less than six quarts of water, and that includes shampooing.

To conserve propane, we heated water for spone baths with the tea kettl, and only turned on the water heater an hour before showering.

It worked for us.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:09 PM   #35
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Showers and most other types of personal hygiene should be strongly encouraged.
I personally have wondered why it's called a wet bath, and not a wet dump. Most baths, by definition, are wet, but not all dumps are.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:25 PM   #36
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Showers and most other types of personal hygiene should be strongly encouraged.
I personally have wondered why it's called a wet bath, and not a wet dump. Most baths, by definition, are wet, but not all dumps are.
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I'm thinking of putting in a pseudo wet bath. The idea is to have the shower floor be 42 x 34" shower pan which is also where you would put your feet while sitting on the toilet and where you would stand while using the sink. However a curtain would separate the toilet and sink area from the shower pan when showering so the only part of the bathroom that would get wet is the floor.
I'm curious about something--are you talking about putting this in the 1980 Caravelle listed in your member data? If so, is this a bottom-up restoration, or is your trailer missing the original bathroom for some reason?

So far as I know the 1980 Caravelles all shared the same bath, which came with a separate shower area. The shower is cramped but quite serviceable and we are mighty glad to have ours when we want it. There are good pictures on the Vintage Airstream Photo Archives page. The Caravelle pictures linked below are a 24 foot model but the bathroom is essentially identical to our 22 footer.

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I'm guessing that parts are probably fairly available; the bathroom--like the rest of the trailer--is very similar to the Argosy Minuet.
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Old 11-19-2011, 01:03 AM   #39
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I'm curious about something--are you talking about putting this in the 1980 Caravelle listed in your member data? If so, is this a bottom-up restoration, or is your trailer missing the original bathroom for some reason?

So far as I know the 1980 Caravelles all shared the same bath, which came with a separate shower area. The shower is cramped but quite serviceable and we are mighty glad to have ours when we want it. There are good pictures on the Vintage Airstream Photo Archives page. The Caravelle pictures linked below are a 24 foot model but the bathroom is essentially identical to our 22 footer.

1980Caravelle3

I'm guessing that parts are probably fairly available; the bathroom--like the rest of the trailer--is very similar to the Argosy Minuet.
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My renovation is a total bottom up. I am 6'2" and the shower in the original layout is way too small. I need to open a bit more room in the rear streetside for kids bunks so I need to redo the bathroom. It just seems like combining the bathroom floor space and shower pan would be a good way to do it.
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We had developed a leak in a worn out pressure valve (Andy knows the name of the part) ..so we canceled showers here and we shower at an old converted lumberyard that has a custom shower and toilet area built in and left behind from a former family. We DO however bring in water to where we are with fiva gallon water bottles. Still rememnding my self to get that pressure valve.
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