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Old 09-11-2007, 08:16 AM   #15
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wasting money!

I really do not like wasting money.
Why flush good greenbacks down the drain. Use the cheap stuff, poke your finger thru a few times----
Oh I see a thread just below this one titled "wiper arms" gotta check it out and see if it is revelant to this topic!
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:53 AM   #16
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:11 PM   #17
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Charmin Toilet paper

I just got off the phone with a person from Charmin and they told me that they have done testing with the charmin basic and it can be used in the black tanks with no problems in all RV's.They told me not to use the other ones they sell because they have not tested them yet.

Right now I have swithed to scott's but if I think I will be trying the Charmins once I run out of these.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:51 PM   #18
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Angel Soft

Three Rivettes standing around my unit... watching a demonstration of the "Sewer Solution" which is a one inch dump hose with a water pressure "mascerator". One remarks, "Gee standing around watching someone else's poo drain... I feel like we're Hank Hill and his buddies standing in the alley..." The other two respond, "yep" and "yep". Then I remark, "you know seriously most of what I learned about propane safety came from Hank Hill..." responses of "yep" and "yep" yet again.

Long story short, I've come to the conclusion that (A) sanitizing your black tank is an oxymoron because you're only one tinkle away from messing it up again and when traveling I would use my own facilities in preference to any public pissoire and (B) agitation is more effective that washers, wands, backflowing clear water in through a connector nozzle, etc. I get my tank as empty and clean as is practical in a reasonable amount of time, then I dump in 3 or 4 gallons of clear water and TRAVEL. At the END of the journey I empty the black tank again.

I've once flushed my tank for 30 minutes (something came up and I got stuck on the cell phone). When I arrived at my next destination three hours later I opened the valve for the black tank and some brownish liquid still came out. If I didn't fulltime, at the end of the season I'd put 5 gallons of clear water and a couple of cups of Clorox in it, then drive and dump, then repeat with clear water and drain thoroughly. As long as I'm actively using it, I'll dump, partly fill, drive and dump again. Can you say "scrubbing bubbles?"

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:13 PM   #19
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We use charmin. I am careful to flush the tanks with a wand on the end of the hose often. I also periodically fill the black tank to about 1/3, and add laundry detergent just before leaving on a trip. This seems to slosh and clean the tank enroute. I then dump before camping. This keeps things clean, and helps minmize ordors.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:04 PM   #20
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What chemicals do you find work best?
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:10 PM   #21
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What chemicals do you find work best?
Unique Digest it. Colorado Company. One use cleaned a tank that had set for at least 4 years and likely much longer. Also sofened the seals so I could get the valves open. Unique M and M -- Home
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:20 PM   #22
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I have actually had a couple of phone calls about this. (I am a regional Septage Coordinator for the WI DNR.) Most single ply toilet paper is considered "septic system compatable", meaning it will break down.

Use basic TP like Scott, Charmin or most others. Save some $$. It is rare that these will pack up even in an RV tank. The TP should start to break up after just a few hours. Even most multiple ply TP's will not be a problem. Many years ago there were compatabiltiy problems with some types, even back then it was generally not much of a problem.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:38 PM   #23
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I'd spend a lot of extra bucks believing it would prevent issues (tissue issues?) down the road. A no-brainer for me. After all, how much would you really save by not springing for the high-priced spread?

But I will say that I'd only use Scott in the trailer, not at home. I hate the one-ply stuff.

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Old 01-31-2008, 05:38 PM   #24
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TP affecting tank readout?

With all the complaints about the tank sensors not reading accurately, could toilet paper sticking to the tank interior explain erroneous black tank readings?
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:44 PM   #25
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Tank Sensor

If anyone feels toilet paper is sticking to the sensor they can unscrew it from behind the dump valve outside and check it out.I did this when I had a leak from it a while back and found some little critters hanging out on it.How they got in,I will never know.
Just remember to empty the tank before you check it or you will get one hellasious burp from your black tank.
It just cant get any better than that.

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Old 01-31-2008, 05:47 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by peegreen
Back issues of the Blue Beret
First of all, I have to note the name of the poster of the above quote. Quite appropriate.

I was going to say "Sears Catalog" but that might date me.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:59 AM   #27
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The Water In The Jar Test

Surpirsed no one mentioned the water in the jar test. You take a jar of water and put a couple squares of the TP in and shake it, let it sit and shake again. This will give you an idea of how it will or will not break down. We full-timed for 4 years in non-Airstreams and used both Angel Soft and Scott one-ply without any problems. We always followed emptying the tanks with a bucket or two of water to "chase it" down. We didn't use chemicals unless we weren't using a lot of water and then we used one of the natural ones with a little additional baking soda in extreme heat. You have to be careful of some of the ones with formaldehyde because if you are like me and some others the vapors will give you a major headache - I don't want to preserve the stuff in the tank anyway, yuck! Cathy

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