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Old 07-11-2016, 08:49 PM   #1
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Standard Household Toilet

Hi all! I have a '69 Sovereign. My toilet is pretty much shot. The plastic water inlet connector on the back is cracked and leaking bad, so I have the valve off. The toilet is a little wobbly as well. I'd like to replace it with a standard toilet. Elongated bowl and higher. My butt is too wide to comfortably sit down into the slot! I'm going to put new plywood down in that area over the existing. Question is. Would a standard tank toilet work/fit? Thanks!
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:06 PM   #2
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Short answer NO!
The household toilet is designed to be used on a sewer system. Whether it be a city sewer or septic system.
Chances are the tank on the back of the toilet would slosh water out while traveling. It may even break from the riggers of travel, spilling it's contents.
Even the efficient toilets use considerably more water than an RV toilet. At least 5 times more water.
Many would be considered too heavy when you think of adding more weight to the coach.
Unless you are turning your coach into a park model. I would not recommend it.
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:14 PM   #3
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Thank you very much for your reply. I should have noted that this Airstream is parked on our mountain property at Lake Wallenpaupack in Pennsylvania for good with basically no plans on ever moving it. We have a city water connection (well).
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:28 PM   #4
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Thank you very much for your reply. I should have noted that this Airstream is parked on our mountain property at Lake Wallenpaupack in Pennsylvania for good with basically no plans on ever moving it. We have a city water connection (well).
Do you have a sewer connection (municipal sewer system or private septic system) as well? If so, there is no reason in principal you can't use a standard toilet. However a toilet with a tank probably won't fit in the space occupied by the present RV toilet.

If you would like a standard-toilet-like china toilet you might look at the standard height Sealand toilets offered by Dometic and, I believe, currently used in new Airstreams.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...and-toilet.htm
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:45 PM   #5
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I drain into a portable tank and then that goes to the dump station at the nearby campground. I'm lookin at new TV toilets now. The Dometic 310 looks good. I like having a higher height but would also like something elongated so (without getting graphic) my man parts can fit better while seated. With my current original smaller seat. I have to constantly "push down" on that mentioned part so it's not touching the inside of the bowl!
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Old 07-12-2016, 05:03 AM   #6
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Welcome to the forum!

Without the trailer moving quite often, your solid waste is probably going to build up in the black water holding tank and cause a problem. Road action macerates the solids and TP into a uniform slurry which permits the gravity-powered dumping of the black tank. Leaving the dump valve open all the time will actually make this worse IMO.

Any chance of getting the toilet you want and removing the black water tank? Or a commercial porta potty to use for the main solid event?

Lots of threads here discuss this general problem area, of stationary trailers and there waste problems.

Good luck!

Edit -- These search results have relevant threads TBD.

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=011403...ler&gsc.page=1
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Very good point! I'm thinking quite possibly that a composting toilet would be a good option for my application? Any opinions/recommendations on that?
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:30 AM   #8
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Go to the Search menu item above right, and then use the Google search box (not the top box) and you will quickly find threads on that. You can also "bounce up" in the organizational scheme here (blue titles above on the left, separated by ">" symbols), and find the various plumbing/toilet threads like this one:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f446...let-67055.html

in this sub-forum.

Or the Boondocking forum might be better?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f382/

Gotta run, more later . . .
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PS -- A newer thread FYI:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f382...ll-146271.html
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Nature's head is a very popular diverting system. I installed the slightly more expensive Air Head. I will be doing a write-up at some point, but I'm not impressed with certain aspects of the design, and after using it a while, I feel differently about some of my original reasons for selecting it over the NH. To be fair, it works as designed and the only smelly bit is emptying the liquids tank.
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The Dometic 320 is the same size seat as a household elongated. Very popular
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Old 08-23-2016, 06:03 AM   #12
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Very good point! I'm thinking quite possibly that a composting toilet would be a good option for my application? Any opinions/recommendations on that?
Curious whether you have chosen a path for your toilet needs?

Thanks,

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