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Old 10-15-2013, 11:14 PM   #15
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Same thing happened to our 2014 25' Flying Cloud. We have it scheduled for warranty repair the first week in November. My concern is that this is a design flaw which will require repeated visits to the dealer for repair.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:59 AM   #16
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mine was fixed once and has been fine for over a year.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:01 PM   #17
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Shower door suspension is a design flaw

Apparently, the shower door in many late model Airstreams starting with at least 2010 when I got mine, has a design flaw that causes it to drop slightly in it's frame, causing the metal bottom edge of the shower door frame to come in contact with the metal flange on the bottom of the shower door surround. It's a design flaw, all right. And you are likely to put in several service visits over the issue.

Dealerships know about this problem and know a fairly easy fix that they can charge off to warranty repair and get reimbursed from Airstream for doing. Unfortunately, this fix rarely lasts, especially if the Airstream in question is ever taken over semi rough terrain. A brief section of washboard, for instance, will cause the problem to reappear. So will a speed bump taken at the wrong speed. Or not. It depends. In my case, it keeps happening.

The fix consists of installing a small piece of plastic tubing in the space between the top of the metal frame of the shower door (just below a tantalizing, but unrelated, Phillips head screw into the top of the assembly), and the stall-side metal door support/hinge structure. The space is only seen on when the door is gently lifted to the top of it's track. It's a gap of only about 3/16 to 1/4. (And you can see i--or actually, you can see where it ought to be--in one of the excellent photos posted earlier in the thread) The piece of plastic tubing is cut through, and the cut allows you to press it onto and almost around the support pin of the hinge. That same cut makes it easy for the slightest jar to dislodge it. So the fix only lasts a little while, which everyone knows about, which makes it kind of a scam. Unless you can get the repair tech to show you how they're "fixing" it, and explain to you why their new variation on the above (and there has to be a better variation) will actually work when you put some real miles on your rig.

I would be so stoked if some smart tech would school me with a better fix.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:19 AM   #18
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My FC had the same issue, and I kinda expect it to appear on the new EB. I'm thinking that there may be a plastic split washer that could be inserted around the hinge pin, top and bottom to raise the door on the hinge. I used to use one of those over the cabinet door towel bars on the shower door - the weight of a big bath sheet on a cheap hinge?

The real solution is probably higher quality replacement hinges - but the shower curtain idea has a lot of merit especially if you think of "I've fallen and I can't get up." The door is safety glass. But a strong cloth shower curtain over a really sturdy rod might be something to grab to prevent a slip and fall.

Lots of stuff like this is routine maintenance even in a house. They really don't make most stuff the way they used to. I keep a supply of "rubber a$$holes" for the stovetop because I do remove the grids and clean the top regularly and I swear something in the Airstream periodically eats one of the things. The dark floor on the EB makes them just disappear too. Fulltiming - latches come unscrewed, and the screw holes get loose. Toothpicks and Elmer's glue and you're good to go.

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:23 AM   #19
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The dark floor on the EB makes them just disappear too.
A contact-lens wearer taught me the trick for finding small hard-to-see items on a floor. Get a powerful flashlight, turn it on, and lay it on the floor. Even small items will cast a long shadow, and you just have to find where the shadow begins to find the item.
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:52 PM   #20
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My FC had the same issue, and I kinda expect it to appear on the new EB. I'm thinking that there may be a plastic split washer that could be inserted around the hinge pin, top and bottom to raise the door on the hinge.

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You're going to love this solution. Like most guys with a clear problem that lacks a clear solution, I went trolling through the isles of the closest hardware store. In this case, it was a home depot. I picked up a 1/2" dowel, thinking I could cut a chunk to slip in under the door at the corner of the surround and the hinge plate. I picked up some copper crimp flanges that looked like one or another might fit and do the job. And almost on a whim, I picked up a package of three slim, round magnets.

I tried the magnets first. Even though I think the metal of the shower door surround and door frame assemblies are aluminum, the magnets worked their way back into the space below the hinge assembly. Unfortunately, they were a little to slim, even all three together, to support the door. But they had come in packaging that included a square piece of mallable but magnetic material, designed, I suppose, to make the three look bigger in their blister pack. I snipped off a piece of that material, slipped it under the three magnetsa and pushed the whole stack back into the corner where they nested with magnetic attraction, perfectly raising the door so that the lower edge no longer interferes with the lower edge of the surround.

They may squirt out on a bumpy road some day, but at least they'll hang together to make finding easier.

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Old 03-26-2014, 07:42 PM   #21
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Also have a 2012. Same issue. Shower slipped down...and after researching on here, I decided to explore the issue. Essentially, the entire shower is suspended from the top by a very inadequate "pot metal" screw that is on the inside of the very top assembly. Mine had actually sheared off, and I could see no way of repairing it. Solution? I ripped the entire cheap shower door, its frame and the bottom sill out. I replaced it with a Sterling (Kohler) shower that I bought at Lowes. It took a couple of hours to install it, but this one has much sturdier construction and has two pivots rather than a piano hinge. I've decided that instead of trying to constantly repair and do "work-arounds" I'm better off to do it right the first time. (Incidentally, there are a number of threads on this in different places, but it's exactly the same issue....and when I'm at JC next, I plan to bring this one up as it is definitely a QC issue.) Here's a photo of the new shower door.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:07 PM   #22
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Hmm - I have a 2012 - no problem yet with shower door. But I'm thinking the shower curtain is a good idea, especially if you use one with the rod that swings out to give extra room in the shower. But the door looks good. Wondering if I should do something to prepare of the inevitable. Hmmm....
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:10 PM   #23
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I've had problems with the shower door on our 2005 Safari for years. We tried shims, various cuss words and shouting at the sky. Nothing worked (at least for very long). The problem is that the door is pivot-based rather than a full hinge.

The solution was to completely replace the door, a task I had some reservations about. A trip to the local Lowe's and consultation with a super-helpful plumbing guy got us the solution: a full-hinge shower door (polished nickel with a raindrop glass pattern) from the Arizona Shower Door Company. About $400 and (since it was a special order because of the size) three weeks. It took my wife and I about two hours to install the door -- which was actually pretty simple. The shower door's latch is a pretty strong magnet, but we retained the latch from the factory door and installed it on the new door with no problem.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:43 AM   #24
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Just curious, as we are experiencing the same issue, were you able to find the necessary size in stock at Lowe's?
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:02 PM   #25
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The shower door on my 2012 Signature collapsed within the first week of operation. I called JC but they said they never heard of such a problem. I rummaged around the garage and found an old plastic nut left over from a toilet seat repair and stuffed it under the door. It worked just fine until Can Am replaced the door about 10 months later under warranty with a new design from JC. Original design is a real nasty piece of junk. I feel better now. Jim


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I could use some help, I have a 1972 27' overlander, I need a shower door, mine is missing. I have seen on in person but didn't get a chance to inspect it. I could use some pictures and measurements to make my own unless some one knows when I can find one.

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Our 2014 International shower door 'failed' the first year. The bottom section of the plastic 'hinge' was laying on the floor. This is the small diameter hinge section that provides clearance for the door to clear the frame of the shower.

When the door needed to be lifted to clear the edge of the lower door frame... I then knew where this short 1/4" section with a screw belonged. It is a cheap excuse for such a heavy door hinge... to be, polite.

I took an extra chair nylon leg 'slide' that has a sharp nail to secure to the chair's leg, trimmed it shorter. While one person lifted the shower door up, so to make enough clearance so I could line up the 'nail' to the nylon hinge securing the door... let the door down to secure the chair leg nylon slider. So the door would no longer 'bounce up and down on the road', I took a small metal bracket, bent it 45 degrees, and secured it with a metal screw to the shower door frame. The bend would prevent the shower door from bouncing upward, while traveling. This is at the TOP of the aluminum frame and door area.

The nylon slider, when the door opens, will rotate, remains secure and clears the door frame. Find one that will be large enough to stay fixed, but small enough to rotate in the small arc that is needed when the door swings open. You will understand once you get started.

It took a couple attempts to get the right fit. It has not failed since my cobbled up repair that is superior to the factory's cheap option.

Yes. Not the right terminology, but when I have an Airstream FIX issue... I resolve it by going through whatever is in the garage or for house repairs and find the FIX. Very simple, needs another person to lift this heavy glass framed door... angle the nylon chair slide and the weight of the door will drive the shortened nail into the hinge nylon.

You need to trim the 'nail' as the door only can be lifted high enough to clear and be inserted. Trim a little at a time, if necessary. It works.

Easier done than described. The door cannot be removed easily, as it is secured to the edge to the shower. If you are helpless when it comes to 'rigging' cures to a problem, ask a friend who is handy with tools and things laying around. It is not rocket science. Those who tinkered on cars in their youth... are experts in fixing stuff.
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Post #27. "bent it 45 degrees"... make that 90 degrees. One side is drilled so a short screw can fit, and a smaller drilled hole so the screw manages to enter without damaging the frame. The other end of the 90 degree bend is set, so it is tight against the 'nylon hinge' so when on a bumpy road, it does not have any up and down motion.

It is this up and down motion that will break the nylon support(s). My broken section of nylon with small screw, was laying in the hallway of the trailer. Yours, if not found, most likely went down the shower drain and never to be seen... again. The evidence is missing, but the door will be sitting lower and not be able to clear the shower door frame.

Our travels take us on many miles of roads. This works for me. If anyone wants to visualize this, I can attempt to get a top and bottom photo.
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