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Old 07-15-2004, 02:32 PM   #1
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SeaLand Traveler Universal Mounting Kit

All - Received the SeaLand Traveler Universal Mounting Kit today and it all makes sense now. I will try and post pictures of it tonight along with pictures of the directions on the back of the package. Hopefully this will help anyone that is considering the SeaLand Traveler toilet but is a little concerned about how it retro-fits to the existing Thetford flange. Joe
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:16 PM   #2
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Thanks. Looking forward to your report.
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:49 PM   #3
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Here is the kit. I'll post pictures of the install when I get to it. Notice the holes in the flange at 11 and 5 positions. That is so you can line the flange up with the standard mounting pattern of the thetfords. You then screw this flange down on top of the thetford with a silicone bead in between and you are ready to go. The larger ring is a spacer that goes around the flange to make up for the added height of the double flanges. Joe
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:45 PM   #4
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Universal Mounting Kit Installed

The universal mounting kit is now installed. Was a little more difficult than I thought it was going to be. The old plastic flange was seriously warped so I had to first purchase a new flange to replace the old flange before installing the universal mounting kit. This kit adds an additional 3/8" to the overall height of the flange which I sorely needed with the new wood floor. The picture below shows the universal mounting kit with the SeaLand Toilet Seal in place.

The toilet is also installed now and it's at least ten times more comfortable than the Thetford was. The seat is actually the same size as a standard household toilet and it fits in the same space. The extra money and additional research was definitely worth it. Joe
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The toilet is also installed now and it's at least ten times more comfortable than the Thetford was.
It's very important that a King be comfortable on his throne!
Looks good Joe...................
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:53 AM   #6
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Ah, the comfort. I see you have pergolated the floor. You can use the large spacer ring to set up a ring toss game, something to do while enthroned.
Good work, and thanks for the details.
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I see you have pergolated the floor.
What do you mean by "pergolated"?
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What do you mean by "pergolated"?
Isn't that Pergo, on the floor? i.e. 'pergo-lated'.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:59 AM   #9
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Aha - that one flew right over my head. Actually it is real wood. Red oak to be exact. It floats like pergo but the joints are tongue and groove and they glue together. Joe
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:15 PM   #10
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Revisiting the Sealand Universal Mount

The one thing I regret about my PO’s renovations is throwing out the original toilet after installing a cheap plastic model. Now trying to get a Sealand Traveler Lite Lo Profile (model 111) installed, I’ve run into Barkingspider’s problem. To their much deserved credit, the local RV service center asked me for advice before ruining anything. After removing the two-bolt plastic La Toillette, it appears the original flange is in still place. The Sealand base is the four-bolt arrangement, which the original flange could match, except the toilet would sit cockeyed. No one wants to be askew on the loo! So I diligently researched the forum and found maybe three options.
  • Rotate the flange until the bolt alignment is correct. The RV guys tried this, wouldn’t budge and wisely they didn’t force it for fear of breaking the tank neck That’s when I got their phone call. I’m not even certain if the flange screwed into the blackwater on the 1960 models. The RV guys feel it is a solid piece of cast iron.
  • Modify the existing flange with a Dremel tool or such to accept the bolts in the 2, 4, 8, and 10 o’clock positions. Problem is, not much clearance between the riser platform and the flange and does this weaken the flange? Potential for collateral damage and disaster, at least with my luck.
  • The Sealand Universal Mounting Ring Kit, part #310139 in white. Sounds like the easiest solution. Even suggests this in the Traveler installation instructions. Bet the RV guys didn’t read it, ya think? Of course I’ve known many men in my life who never read directions, and they’ve always done just fine.
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Here’s the base of the Sealand and a pic of the existing flange. I’m guessing the riser around the flange is original, looks like its been there for years. I'm going to tell them what part to order in the morning. For those who've done this, do I also need the Sealand Floor Flange Sponge Seal, Part # 314549, or is this included with the toilet. I didn’t get to see what all was in the box. And is there anything I’m overlooking or that I should tell the RV guys? For those who need to do this in the future, the mounting kit and other parts can be found at http://www.sealandsanitation.com/traveler_parts.htm.
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:33 PM   #11
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Good pics. We opted to rotate ours and it worked just fine - but you make a good point - what do you do if it breaks...?

By the way - 3 years later and we love our Sealand (in an appropriate way of course ). I am a huge fan and can thank Charlie Burke for heading us in that direction. When we started looking for a replacement potty - we couldn't find any that would fit the space. Although he had retired from the Airstream Biz, he took the time to help.
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Janet, I'm glad to hear your are still pleased with your Sealand. Silly, but of all the things I could do with this trailer, getting rid of the cheap plastic throne came to the very top of the list. I would like to try gently rotating my flange, but in my case I'm afraid it would involve accessing the blackwater tank from below and soaking the threads in sliicone spray, WD40, or whatever else to coax it loose. Time is money at these RV service centers, plus I don't want to jepardize my new relationship with the only place in town that truely welcomed a vintage Airstream. I may need them again.
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hello Sugarfoot , my 60 has the thread on flange ,Ive refurbished all of the
floor / step up box ,we had an aqua magic galaxie in gold that went right in the trash .I believe the best and wisest solution is the sealand adapter .The more the RV guys have to modify the more it will cost . The seal should be in the box with the new toilet.

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Thanks for the info, Scott. I'll tell them to order only the Universal Mounting Rings kit and we'll go from there. Oooooooo, a GOLD Aqua Magic in your lovely 1960 TW . . . bet that set your teeth on edge! Think there's a mound of discarded plastic RV toilets somewhere with a sanitation worker looking up from the bottom scratching his chin in wonder?
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