Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2009, 01:33 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
1970 27' Overlander
Ketchum Idaho , Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 17
Newbie needs some help SHower Line 70 Overlander

Ok so... The shower line has a crack in it ( copper) way up inside and my question is... HOW the BLEEP do you get to it? seems like Pex is the way to fix it.. but I cannot reach it

Please help
__________________

__________________
zenarmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 03:51 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Minno's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington , Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,323
Well, if your set up is anything like the bathroom and tub/shower in our 72 Sovereign, then repairs made to the hidden water lines will require taking part of the bathroom apart. We found lots of evidence that parts of the bathtub and shower were taken apart to repair water lines, and I would guess more than once based on the number of extra rivet holes, and repairs made to the hidden lines that we found as we were gutting her. My advice, short of anyone posting something to the contrary, is that you'll need to carefully disassemble whatever is in your way to gain access to the broken water line. And then if there are multiple water lines back there, if it were me, I'd replace everything with pex while I had it opened up. Good luck!

Chris
__________________

__________________
Minno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2009, 04:33 PM   #3
3 Rivet Member
 
gutsgolf's Avatar
 
1972 31' Sovereign
Hattiesburg , Ms
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 126
Images: 5
Send a message via AIM to gutsgolf Send a message via Skype™ to gutsgolf
size and amount of pex needed?

chris what size pex doe it take to do the 31' soverign and how much does it take. will it connect directly to faucets, etc. never used this stuff before.
thanks
richard
__________________
Richard & Marika
31' International
Land Yatch
"Silver Belle"
AS 16741
gutsgolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2009, 03:06 PM   #4
1 Rivet Member
 
1972 29' Ambassador
trenton , Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
ANyone know where I can get my hands on a shower/tub for my 72?
__________________
Pirate4hire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2009, 03:28 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
mello mike's Avatar
 
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
Images: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by gutsgolf View Post
chris what size pex doe it take to do the 31' soverign and how much does it take. will it connect directly to faucets, etc. never used this stuff before.
thanks
richard
I'm no expert but I recently had my bathroom done in PEX. The standard appears to be the 1/2 inch size and you can get this in clear or in opaque red and blue. I had to buy a couple new faucets with 1/2 connectors to enable my pex to connect directly to them. You can install your PEX with either plastic or brass fittings. An estimate of how much a 31 ft Sovereign would need for both hot and cold water lines, I would say about 70 ft. Somebody who's actually done their whole trailer can chime in here.
__________________
1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE

WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP

My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
http://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
mello mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:03 AM   #6
2 Rivet Member
 
1976 25' Tradewind
Plympton , Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 22
I'm new here, too - just bought a 76 Trade Wind and I came on here to post pretty much the same question - I don't even know what lies behind my shower walls, but there's a leak back there somewhere. I'm planning on starting the project this weekend - any tips/pointers on removing the shower walls?
__________________
JohnE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:31 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,250
Images: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate4hire View Post
ANyone know where I can get my hands on a shower/tub for my 72?
Try posting a classified ad in this forum, instead of hijacking this thread. This specific post pertains to replacing the water lines.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnE View Post
I'm new here, too - just bought a 76 Trade Wind and I came on here to post pretty much the same question - I don't even know what lies behind my shower walls, but there's a leak back there somewhere. I'm planning on starting the project this weekend - any tips/pointers on removing the shower walls?
John,

Take your time and label everything you take off. Take pictures too, so you can see how something fit, just in case it no longer does. Also, make sure that your Tradewind is level, resting on jackstands, so that the frame has no flex in it...makes things easier to rivet back in, in my opinion. I've found that, if the frame has some flex to it, things just don't fit right back in the way they were originally.

My other advice would be to buy white or blue PEX for the cold line and red PEX for the hot line...I wish that had been done, when mine was replaced...I settled for writing "HOT" on the white PEX lines, where needed.
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:37 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
StingrayL82's Avatar
 
San Angelo , Texas
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,250
Images: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike View Post
I'm no expert but I recently had my bathroom done in PEX. The standard appears to be the 1/2 inch size and you can get this in clear or in opaque red and blue. I had to buy a couple new faucets with 1/2 connectors to enable my pex to connect directly to them. You can install your PEX with either plastic or brass fittings. An estimate of how much a 31 ft Sovereign would need for both hot and cold water lines, I would say about 70 ft. Somebody who's actually done their whole trailer can chime in here.
70' will cover everything you need to do comfortably and leave you spare tubing, for that "just in case moment". Also, there are different ways to attach the PEX to the fittings...mine are crimped, so if you go that route, make sure you have the right tools for the job and double check ALL of your connections, just in case (see, it pops up again) you missed one and have to find out the hard way, at a rally (ask me how I know).
__________________
Frederic
1971 Sovereign International - SOLD

2004 F-350 King Ranch

AIR # 8239
EX-WBCCI # 8371
StingrayL82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 08:57 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
easyride's Avatar
 
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
Images: 1
shower leak

Quote:
Originally Posted by zenarmy View Post
Ok so... The shower line has a crack in it ( copper) way up inside and my question is... HOW the BLEEP do you get to it? seems like Pex is the way to fix it.. but I cannot reach it


Please help
If your valve is on the back wall,there should be a shelf above it,drill out the rivets holding shelf and trim.Shelf should come off so you can get to the back side of the wall.remove the trim and the valve should only be held in by the copper.Tricky part is unsweat the copper without burning up the tub,pull out the valve and sweat in the pex adapters,crimp on enough pex to reach the trunk,reinstall valve on, sweat on shower adapter,add trim. While you are there it is a good time to snake new lines thru there to the k.sink,crimp on angle stops at k.sink,this will give you valves,and reduce down to the 1/4 pipe used on the faucet.Tie it all in ,in the trunk,and system should work.Unless you are really weight concious,just leave old copper in place ,it`s too hard to remove. Dave
__________________
easyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 06:23 PM   #10
1 Rivet Member
 
1970 27' Overlander
Ketchum Idaho , Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 17
Looks like our RV doctor is going to bypass the shower line and connect the shower head and cable to the existing sink faucet.. seems reasonable rather than start tearing the whole thing apart and pulling rivits... as the bathroom fixtures are in great shape...
__________________
zenarmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2009, 08:28 AM   #11
1 Rivet Member
 
1972 29' Ambassador
trenton , Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by StingrayL82 View Post
Try posting a classified ad in this forum, instead of hijacking this thread. This specific post pertains to replacing the water lines.

Sorry there buddy...I wasn't trying to hijack the thread and didn't see the classifieds...just looking for a little help. Thanks for the forum etiquette advice.


John,

Take your time and label everything you take off. Take pictures too, so you can see how something fit, just in case it no longer does. Also, make sure that your Tradewind is level, resting on jackstands, so that the frame has no flex in it...makes things easier to rivet back in, in my opinion. I've found that, if the frame has some flex to it, things just don't fit right back in the way they were originally.

My other advice would be to buy white or blue PEX for the cold line and red PEX for the hot line...I wish that had been done, when mine was replaced...I settled for writing "HOT" on the white PEX lines, where needed.

Good luck John.
__________________

__________________
Pirate4hire is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
First shower in my 1975 Overlander !!! pjtaia Our Community 14 07-05-2015 01:46 PM
Shower Curtain for '64 Overlander anniescc Upholstery, Blinds, Walls & Interior Finishes 2 09-04-2007 02:13 PM
'76 Overlander Shower/Copper Tubing sugarloafin' Fresh Water Systems 2 05-29-2007 03:24 PM
Newbie - 26' Overlander GreatPumpkin Member Introductions 7 04-13-2006 07:44 AM
Shower door hook: '67 Overlander TomW 1967 Overlander 1 11-08-2004 10:15 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.