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Old 06-21-2005, 08:59 AM   #1
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Well I am thankful I've found this place, I think.
I just found a set of rules on buying an older Airstream on this forum, I seem to have broken them all. I am 51 and my wife and I have wanted an Airstream for years, but we like the old ones. I just bought a '64 overlander. Bought the first one I looked at, from someone who had traded a boat for the trailer. He knew nothing about it, just hadn't been able to sell the boat and thought the trailer might sell quicker, it did. He thought most everything worked. Well I didn't give much for it, I guess that comes now.
Anyway after all that, I have been looking for a name on the toilet, it won't hold water in the bowl, must be some kind of seal. I see a name "Saniware" on a base part and swirlomatic on a metal ring. All I see in a catalog of RV parts is Thetford stuff. Is this the same brand? What all typically needs repair on these things?
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:09 AM   #2
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Well I am thankful I've found this place, I think.
I just found a set of rules on buying an older Airstream on this forum, I seem to have broken them all. I am 51 and my wife and I have wanted an Airstream for years, but we like the old ones. I just bought a '64 overlander. Bought the first one I looked at, from someone who had traded a boat for the trailer. He knew nothing about it, just hadn't been able to sell the boat and thought the trailer might sell quicker, it did. He thought most everything worked. Well I didn't give much for it, I guess that comes now.
Anyway after all that, I have been looking for a name on the toilet, it won't hold water in the bowl, must be some kind of seal. I see a name "Saniware" on a base part and swirlomatic on a metal ring. All I see in a catalog of RV parts is Thetford stuff. Is this the same brand? What all typically needs repair on these things?
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Welcome to the forum, I know how you feel when you say you wanted an Airstream for years, I think we all did.
I would like to suggest that you spend some time searching the forums to get a feel for what type of information is available to you each time you need to perform a repair. i.e. toilet trouble. It may be cheaper in the long run to pitch the old one and just put in a new toilet.
Good luck, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask, and it costs you money.
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:26 AM   #3
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Yikes! Most folks I know in vintage circles really prefer the old vitreous china toilets to the modern plastic versions. Don't pitch it, even if you decide you don't want to bother with it! You may end up regretting it.

If it's a fairly simple toilet (our 61 just has a spring loaded flap), it's probably repairable, with a bit of fussing. With good springs and seals, the toilet will work easily and efficiently (and believe it or not, it seals out the smells, too). Otherwise, you may have to get it professionally fixed (or give up and get a new one). You can probably clear your old one at a vintage rally, through the classifieds here or ebay.

More to the point--how closely have you looked at the structural side of this trailer? That's probably the most important thing to consider now. Also, have you tested all of the systems?

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I go with fireflyinva on this one. When I have need to plop my royal behind on a toilet, I want a solid throne to sit on, not a flimsy plastic device.
Ahhh..... a porcelain toilet and a copy of Airstream Life magazine. Life is good!
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There are several china toilets on the market now that are great. Check out the sealand line. They look and feel like the old stuff with out the busted parts. We replaced our plastic one with the sealand traveler lite model - no leaks, no cracks (no pun intended) no worries.
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:03 PM   #6
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I think it depends on the vintage of the trailer...The older systems are simpler, easier to maintain and repair. There is a considerable market still out there for vintage comodes (we've been asked several times to sell ours), so it seems that some folks don't find the newer ones quite match the old ones.

But I don't know much about a 64 model, much less the complicated plumbing of a 77. I do know that the toilet in our 61 was never intended to retain liquid in the bowl. If yours is similar, then the liquid seeping characteristic is a design feature, not a leak. Still, it may need a new spring.

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Old 06-21-2005, 07:46 PM   #7
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Wow, thanks for all the responses. You are right I'm sure, use the search feature before you ask a question that has been asked dozens of times. I am glad to hear water isn't supposed to stay in the bowl, that does make sense, no more sloshing than necessary. I will look to see on this forum what was the standard unit in 64. I would assume there would be a standard brand.
As for the structural of the trailer I'm sure I need axils, but for now I believe I will just replace the bearings. There are about 5 or 6 lakes about 30 to 45 minutes away and for the summer thats all we'll do. This winter I'll try to get the tires and axils done.
The stove works, haven't checked the oven or the furnace. Right now I don't care if the furnace works. I haven't found any gas leaks. I also haven't checked the water heater. The water pump seems to be missing, at least I can't find it though when I put water in the tank it ran out a line that wasn't connected to anything, I guess the pump's position. I fixed all the faucets and leaks in the lines, it wasn't too bad. The air conditioner cools but the fan doesn't blow, that will have to be addressed
I think I am close to trying it out. I am leaving town for New Orleans on Friday (26 wedding anniversary and the wife thinks we need to do something) so I can't play this weekend.
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:03 PM   #8
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Hello fellow Okie. I'm in Chandler, just down Route 66 from you. It's good to have someone else on the forum from here. I have a "new" 78 Argosy that my husband and I are restoring. We are having fun. I don't know too much about toilet repairs because mine works. But I will say that it doesn't "hold" water. It's only problem is the Harvert Gold thing. I'm White Coating the tub and sink; however, I may leave the toilet as my tribute to the 70's.
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...Check out the sealand line. They look and feel like the old stuff with out the busted parts. We replaced our plastic one with the sealand traveler lite model ...
Last year about this time (before she was a Moderator ), I PMed Janet after reading a post about her & Gary's throne selection asking for more details. Based on her experience, I ordered Sealand's Traveller Lite toilet. Wonderful selection, and it fit my available space to a "T".

I "second" Janet's recommendation. And Janet, if I forgot to follow up, "Thanks!"

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Old 06-21-2005, 09:09 PM   #10
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Happy Aniversary and congratulations for staying together for so long! She (or you) must have been a keeper.

Can't say that too many people respect their wedding vows these days.

Does the fridge work? Good luck with your trailer. As for me, mine pulls itself!
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I forgot to mention the fridge. Its been replaced with a Kenmore, just electric.

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I go with fireflyinva on this one. When I have need to plop my royal behind on a toilet, I want a solid throne to sit on, not a flimsy plastic device.
Ahhh..... a porcelain toilet and a copy of Airstream Life magazine. Life is good!
My NEW CCD has porcelain! Let us pray that the plastic toilet era has gone forever.

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Angry Don't forget to clean the seal

Forgot to mention, I got this funny little plastic tongue depressor looking thing with my new Airstream... but it had tiny velcro like bristles on one end. Boy am I glad I read my manuals before putting it to any alternate use.

There are detailed instructions on how to clean the seal with this thing, but first I think I'll put a hole in the handle and tether it with a long nylon cord.... wouldn't want to lose it down the black tank.

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Is the water pump supposed to be located in the rear compartment?
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