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Old 03-30-2007, 04:09 PM   #1
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Installing Outdoor Shower

My old tent trailer had an outdoor shower, which I really enjoyed. Also seeing how quick my grey water filled up doing dishes, I would like the ability to do dishes outside.

I took my trailer to my dealer, Southwest Coaches, and got a quote for $529.00. I thought that to be a little high. They say they charge $105/hr and $420 of that is labor (4hrs).

My wife didn't want to spend that kind of money and frankly I thought it was quite expensive.

Can someone walk me thru the basic install please. I need to know roughly where to put it. Where to tap for the water. The best way to cut the aluminum and what tools to use and any other suggestions.

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Old 03-30-2007, 04:32 PM   #2
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My old tent trailer had an outdoor shower, which I really enjoyed. Also seeing how quick my grey water filled up doing dishes, I would like the ability to do dishes outside.

I took my trailer to my dealer, Southwest Coaches, and got a quote for $529.00. I thought that to be a little high. They say they charge $105/hr and $420 of that is labor (4hrs).

My wife didn't want to spend that kind of money and frankly I thought it was quite expensive.

Can someone walk me thru the basic install please. I need to know roughly where to put it. Where to tap for the water. The best way to cut the aluminum and what tools to use and any other suggestions.

Thanks
hello, I hope you are good with metal work and the tools needed, if you are not that confident I'd spend the $530.00 to do it. another way is get a black water or if they make a grey water 25 gallon holding tank.I've seen a few people using them for grey water extra holding.also a lot cheaper.check on ebay . good luck which ever way you try.
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:41 PM   #3
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Hi. My 25 FB SE has one. I've used it twice. Of course being a female camper may have something to do with wanting more modesty. Being 58, I may just prefer not to scare younger campers!

I can see one being useful if you're in deep wilderness. And a skunked dog, DEFINITELY an outside job. That said, I spent all winter worrying about mine freezing up, and even ran a nightlight under the cover to make sure it wouldn't.

Check with other dealers... or trade up for a 25 FB SE or other model that has one (yeah sure). Cutting skin is something I won't do.

Happy hunting. I'm sure there are other members who have done this and will help you. Check the Search feature, I think I remember someone in 2005 who did it.

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Old 03-30-2007, 06:17 PM   #4
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If you just want to wash your hands and do dishes how about one of these



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Old 03-30-2007, 06:59 PM   #5
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I think it is a ok idea

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My old tent trailer had an outdoor shower, which I really enjoyed. Also seeing how quick my grey water filled up doing dishes, I would like the ability to do dishes outside.........

Can someone walk me thru the basic install please. I need to know roughly where to put it. Where to tap for the water. The best way to cut the aluminum and what tools to use and any other suggestions.

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This comes up every now and then. I have thought about it on occasion and may do it when I re do the plumbing. The approach I am thinking about is to add a hot and cold water outlet outside that the shower apparatus could be screwed onto. I cant see how this would be a problem in terms of winterizing. In any case, you can search this and see how others have done it. I know there are threads on the topic.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:16 PM   #6
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Same Dream - Different Plan

I too wanted an outdoor shower on my 2003 CCD, couldn't for the life of me figure out why there wasn't a factory installed unit on mine. Having bought it used - I wan't able to dealer spec it. Then again, it came with an AM/FM Cassette player. Real advanced technology there......

OK - the plan. Under my kitchen sink cabinet is an access area where I can see the factory pex lines - red for hot blue for cold - simple. I am going to tap those lines and run the pex forward of the wheel well and exit the bottom of the trailer whare I will mount a brass mixer manifold and a fawcet with a quick connect on the spicket. I will then have a quick way to attach a bradded SS line to a push on/off shower head that I can remove and store inside while trailering - I have even given thought to a custom aluminum box but want to keep it simple. Drilling the floor under the cabinets gives me the pucker factor weezys but I feel it's less complicated and much more reversable then the cutting and sealing of the side skin.

Have I done this yet - NO - but the parts have been purchased and at a total cost of $50 is far less than what you found. OK my 2cents.
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Hey Clancy, keep us posted (with lots of pics) when you do this. I have a similar plan in mind.
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Sounds like someone needs to head to sea for a while. Too much time on your hands ;-)

I have seen these on Motor homes but never an AS. I stand corrected. The Bambi CCD has a pass through door for the shower head. I was thinking of a permanently installed outdoor one.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:33 PM   #9
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Sounds like someone needs to head to sea for a while. Too much time on your hands ;-)

I have seen these on Motor homes but never an AS.
They are standard on any A/S that comes with a wet bath.............specifically the 16 Bambi and the 22. There is no real problem cutting into the skin as long as you have the correct tools, plan the cut carefully, be sure that you have enough space on the interior for the shower valve and hose box and lastly.......have a large quantity of SikaFlex and rivets on hand!

Killo 1,

I really don't see it taking 4 hours! Maybe 2.5 at most unless there are other unforseen problems.

BUT WAIT.............I see that you have a 22. Obviously it didn't get the outdoor shower. I have 2 friends that have them. Perhaps I was incorrect and they were an option?!?!?!
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:38 PM   #10
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sink sprayer

hi- in my Overlander, the kitchen sink has a window in front of it- and the sink has a sprayer with a hose long enough to go out that window, If one wanted to do that. It would be a nearly free way to occasionally shower outside, if you made something to stand on out of the dirt. Just an el-cheapo idea for you...
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:56 PM   #11
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hi- in my Overlander, the kitchen sink has a window in front of it- and the sink has a sprayer with a hose long enough to go out that window, If one wanted to do that. It would be a nearly free way to occasionally shower outside, if you made something to stand on out of the dirt. Just an el-cheapo idea for you...
Funny I brought this subject up yesterday with my wife, and thought I may try the "hose out the kitchen window" method. Yes, I'm cheap.
If you want a long-term method, I would either do as Clancy Boy suggested and plumb it down through the floor, or plumb an outlet to an exterior compartment that would be accessed by opening the compartment door.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:11 PM   #12
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Sounds like someone needs to head to sea for a while. Too much time on your hands ;-)

I have seen these on Motor homes but never an AS. I stand corrected. The Bambi CCD has a pass through door for the shower head. I was thinking of a permanently installed outdoor one.
Funny - I am at sea. I have lots of time to think of things. Like being in prison with the added threat of drowning thrown in. Gotta love the Navy.

My plan is to keep the mod simple and make it a one day thing. I have enough projections through the skin and don't want to do that. The brass mixer valve is a non-standard sink unit with a central tilt assembly for Hot/Cold mixing - when I get to a camp site I can leave it on and just use the spray head with a push button to release the water. No stooping down to turn it on all the time. I do want to look at a hose rest on the side but again don't want to drill - looking at suction cups.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:24 PM   #13
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I bought one for $40 on ebay, it took less than an hour to lay it out, cut the hole and rivet it in.

I haven't hooked up the two water lines yet but that shouldn't take more than another hour.

How anyone can figure 4 hours as a pro is just a rip off.
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I bought one for $40 on ebay, it took less than an hour to lay it out, cut the hole and rivet it in.

I haven't hooked up the two water lines yet but that shouldn't take more than another hour.

How anyone can figure 4 hours as a pro is just a rip off.
Hi Bob,
Have any photos? Or a description on how/where you installed it?
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