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Old 08-03-2017, 07:35 PM   #1
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Bathroom faucet leak 05 CCD-suggestions?

So who in this world built this Airstream!
My dilemma: I have a leak on my cold wing connector to my bathroom faucet.

First week we were hooked up to city water I noticed water dripping from bellie pan. Had bigger truck issues so it became secondary. ( on two month holiday touring Newfoundland).

Next three weeks we were running off fresh water tank/pump system. Last couple days noticed pump coming on for no reason. It has done this in the past when my tank is getting low. But then she would not pressurize and prime meaning still running. Ug that always means there is a bloody leak.

I had perfect silence where I was yesterday and was able to hear a hiss when I turned the pump off. So I have found my leak.

The problem is how the heck can I get at it.

I'm thinking that I will have to remove the kitchen sink and make the access hole taller to reach up with two hands as it is a two hand job.

( side complaint to Airstream. What moron installed short braided lines that is impossible to reach.)

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At least they could have used the 16inch line so that the connectors are right easy at the access panel opening.

Before I tackle this job tomorrow and start cutting this hole bigger and time removing the sink so I can get my shoulders and head into see what I'm doing, is there an easier way to do this repair?

Just a thought while I was uploading the pics. What about removing the bath sink and reaching down? How easy would it be to remove the bathroom sink at the p trap and pull up thus I could reach down through that hole?
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:46 PM   #2
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Nowadays those supply lines are typically part of the faucet but most have overly long supply lines I'm finding. But I hear you, anytime you have a serviceable connection it should be actually serviceable. Larger hole and a new cover plate?

Before removing sink try removing p trap and tail piece to see if that makes it doable.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:00 PM   #3
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Thanks Alan. Thinking I might pull the bathroom sink and change out both lines if the new ones will fit this faucet.

The kit sink is the issue ug can't get my head far enough in to see through the access hole.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:40 PM   #4
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Are you sure it's the line leaking and not the faucet. Faucet gaskets or o- rings are more likely to wear out and leak and are repairable from the top. I just repaired the Moen faucet in the AS kitchen.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:46 PM   #5
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Can you tell where on the fitting it is leaking?

You might be able to get a vice grip wrench on the hose end then tighten the swivel adapter by hand. Still a tight fit.
I feel your pain just had a similar problem, was able to uncomfortably get a small adjustable crescent wrench and chanel locks to tighten the swivel adapter.

From the looks of it the sink removal route may be easiest.
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Old 08-04-2017, 12:15 PM   #6
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Unhappy water connection to sink leak

I had a leak at the hot water connection at my kitchen sink. It only leaked after the hot water actually arrived at the faucet. Tightening it did not help. When I disconnected the line from the sink I found that the rubber washer was malformed. It was actually defective from the get go. It did not have enough material in the shoulder on one side only. After replacing it with a good one the leak was gone.

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Old 08-04-2017, 05:19 PM   #7
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I have turned off the cold tap and pump primed so I suspect what a couple have suggested- the tap innards. It is not a Moen in the bathroom. I have had to replace the brass washers 6 years ago so will check them again. Job for tomorrow.
Thanks for all the help - have missed the forums!!!
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:57 PM   #8
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So it's leaking below the counter but not a supply connection? Typically when a faucet starts leaking from below the counter and not a supply connection it is not repairable, of course there a lots of variables.
First thing I do is determine exactly were the water is coming from and then decide what it will take to repair. In tight spots using your hand can tell you allot, skin holds water well after touching an area you might suspect.
Post a picture of the faucet if needed to ID the make.
Also as said those cone washers in the supply connections are somewhat unreliable, especially when going dry for extended periods as a trailer does.
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This is the pic of my tap. Will check to see manufacture I think it is really faint on the back.
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It's RV specific and have never seen that in a residential faucet but does have some elements that look Grohe.
So that said, it has a pull out spray yes? Check to see if that connection is leaking, pull out head and run water to see.
That type faucet is notorious for leaking at the spray head hose connection.
I am assuming a bit when I say that.
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I have had leaks in the same area. Attachment 291320 I added a water tight opening so I could service all the water connections under the sink Attachment 291321
Is that also your shower valve? Makes sense since no need to have a pull out for a small lav
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Where did you come up with the access panel? Source?
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I ordered it through Overtons. Boating hardware. I think it's an 8".
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I ordered it through Overtons. Boating hardware. I think it's an 8".

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Fantastic. Thanks for the data. There's an access opening in my future[emoji3]
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I've had a leak on mine and was able to twist my hand up to do the repair. Biggest problem is that the faucet is no longer in production. Airstream does not have a replacement. PORTOFINO SPRAYER** Sorry no longer available ** Part No. 97656-HEAD/C or 97655CP for the whole unit. If anyone knows of a workable substitute, I'd like to know. I've replaced the shower head twice. It's leaking again. I can understand why it is no longer in production. I'm going to try some plastic welding material next. Meh. BradS's solution looks like the best course of action.
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I am so sorry I never got back to this thread. I was on the road at that time with intermittent wifi. I narrowed the leak and it was definitely coming from the white wing nut connector.

Just read your solutions and hints - thank you all so much. We only had another week or so left. So just ran without the bathroom cold tap side.

When we needed the shower I just put a dog towel where the leak was dripping- just left the access panel off.

Never had time to sort it out in the fall. Winterized fine and will get at that in first thaw in spring.

I’ve decided to remove the bathroom sink as no doubt that should have a reseal on it anyway. She is 12+ now so lots of things need either replacing, updating or in need of full maintenance and service.

Love the water tight access idea. But I’m too scared to cut holes in my FG
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Reviving this thread

Hi all,

Well I finally had a chance to work on the leak. Going on the premise that it was the wing nut - I cut it off and saved money in pex crimping tool and went with shark bit connections.

Well after becoming a pretzel got it all hooked up - only to find out it was NOT the wing nut after all. I could not see the water running down the braid from the centre of the tap.

My suspicion now is that the centre cartridge is toast or if there is a gasket or O ring in the centre it is gone. But I can not find a schematic on this faucet anywhere - maybe someone out there has one?

Again my biggest problem is I can't reach up high enough to remove the tap centre nut to release the base of the faucet to pull it apart. Making the access under the sink bigger will not grow my arms either UG. I did pull the kitchen sink trap out so that I had more room to work that helped a bit.

Looks Like I will have to make a water seal access as indicated earlier in the thread.

Which still leaves the faucet replacement issue - does anyone have any ideas about a replacement faucet that has the pull out like this one that doubles as the shower head.?

This one is the portion pull out kitchen faucet 97656-CH which is discontinued and most likely will not be able to find cartridges for it either. I had replaced the hot and cold tap cartridges 7 years ago and had a spare - but never the centre one.

Thanks for any more insight you may be able to provide.
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